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Eric Jon Phelps, noted Jesuit expert, author of the book Vatican Assassins: Wounded In The House Of My Friends, lecturer and talk show host, will be our exclusive guest on November 5, 2012 on the Decrypted Matrix Radio Show on Revealing Talk Radio. We will start at the beginning of the Jesuits and learn how they were formed, what their hands have caused and where their influence directly affects us as individuals as well as in our government.
Eric Jon Phelps on Decrypted Matrix Radio
November 5th – Midnight EST
Revealing Talk Radio
Show Transcript
Introduction and Guest Background
This is Decrypted Matrix on Revealing Talk Radio with your host Max. Very exciting show tonight. We have Mr. Eric Jon Phelps from VaticanAssassins.org. We are going to dive into the Jesuits, the Jesuit Order, and how they have been manipulating world events. We are going to join Eric Jon Phelps here from Vatican Assassins to talk about the depths of the rabbit hole tonight.
So why waste the time? Let’s jump right into it. No news, no relevant topics, just interview. So in just a few seconds we will join Eric Jon Phelps from Vatican Assassins. For those of you who are on the site and have followed the content, things have gone crazy lately. There is a lot going on in the court system with whistleblowers exposing the spying technology that law enforcement agencies are using to spy on Americans’ phone calls and their personal liberties. That is just the beginning. The technology being used against the public right now goes beyond human comprehension.
We have a historian from VaticanAssassins.org, the master of what goes on behind the scenes at the Vatican. He knows the depths of these secret societies, how they operate, who the major players are. He is going to explain whether the Pope is really the world’s offensive coordinator for some very interesting things. There are some fascinating writings on Vatican Assassins right now regarding the Jesuits, the Knights of Malta, the war in Iran, and this upcoming presidential election.
There is an article featured called “Obama’s White Papal Masters.” It has been circulating for a while and you can still find it at VaticanAssassins.org. Can you tell who the president really works for by the company that he keeps? Eric is also an expert on the JFK assassination — John F. Kennedy and then John F. Kennedy Jr. He also talks about the Knights of Malta. I am not a huge Knights of Malta expert myself, but I keep seeing them come up.
Eric: It is a pleasure to be here with you and your listeners. I got interested in this topic while at Bible college in 1977 to 1979. It started out with studying the Illuminati. I read a book by Des Griffin called Conflict of the Ages. Then I read Edmond Paris, who wrote works about the Vatican’s connection to the Bolshevik Revolution, and who was really behind the border, the Inquisition, the drug trade, and the assassinations of presidents. It was a very good work, a classic. From there, I had a history professor who had a special course on the Lincoln assassination. She recommended a book titled The Suppression of the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln by Burke McCarty from 1924. When she showed that the Jesuits were the masters behind the Lincoln assassination, that raised the question: were the Jesuits behind the Kennedy assassination? I was ten years old when that happened. I was in class in fourth grade and my fourth grade teacher, Mrs. Steele, started crying her eyes out. It deeply affected me and made me wonder what happened. When I saw LBJ being sworn in on that Roman Catholic missal there on Air Force One, with Jacqueline Kennedy in the background, I knew something was wrong.
Eric Jon Phelps’ Research and Vatican Assassins
Eric: I was also drawn to the King James Bible controversy. The Jesuits were behind the Revised Version Committee in the 1800s with the intent of replacing the King James Bible. The English Revised Version and the American Standard Version were the genesis of undermining the King James Bible in both countries. The Jesuits’ intent was to destroy the Reformation. With those things in mind, I needed to study the Jesuit Order and show that the Jesuits were behind the Kennedy assassination. You have to go back to the beginning of the Order in 1534 and trace its history to the present.
Max: Amazing story. You mentioned that the Kennedy assassination and the Lincoln assassination are connected by the Jesuits. How?
Eric: The Jesuits were working in Switzerland in 1847 and 1848 around their suppression. Many of them came to the US. One of them was at Georgetown. He was confessor to Mary Surratt. He knew John Surratt. Of course they were overseers of the assassination. You have a Jesuit at Georgetown who was very much involved. In the Kennedy assassination, that same Jesuit connection runs through. You have a Jesuit, a Father Buick Sorely at Georgetown, who was very much involved in the Kennedy assassination. In fact, Sorely became the confessor to Jackie Kennedy after the assassination. So you have the same Jesuit thread running through both.
Max: That is the first time I have heard either of those names. They must be the guys behind the guys behind the guys, because we have heard different names of course — like Frank Sturgis, George H.W. Bush, and the cronies that are on the ground level.
Eric: I released my first manuscript in 1999. My second manuscript was in 2000. After sabotage of my computer, I decided to triple my sources. It took me another five or six years, and in 2007 I released my third edition of Vatican Assassins, which was 1,836 pages with 760 pictures and portraits. I increased my sources by about one-third to improve and further document my conclusions.
Max: Let us take a quick step back for the listeners. What is a Jesuit coadjutor? I have a feeling it means a co-conspirator or affiliate. Explain what you mean because I see that as a heavily used keyword on your website.
Eric: A coadjutor is someone who aids the Jesuit Order but is not a priest himself. You can find coadjutors in all walks of life. Bill Clinton was a Jesuit coadjutor. He was trained by Jesuits at Georgetown. He was their favorite. He was well liked by the Jesuits. Bill Clinton was a coadjutor who did everything they told him to do.
The Titanic Conspiracy
Max: I have heard that the Jesuits had a connection to the Titanic. Is that correct? What is the short version of why the Jesuits took down the Titanic?
Eric: There were certain wealthy Americans and Jews who were against the Federal Reserve. You had Benjamin Guggenheim, the founder of the Guggenheim Museum, Isidor Straus of Macy’s department stores, and John Jacob Astor, who was the richest man on board ship. All three of these men were opposed to the Federal Reserve. So the Jesuits sent agents to get rid of the opposition to the Fed. They used their coadjutors and had J.P. Morgan’s White Star Line build the Titanic.
Max: I also heard that they may have even switched the Titanic and the Olympic for insurance purposes.
Eric: I have heard that theory, but I really do not believe it. The Titanic was built to be sunk on its maiden voyage. It listed to the port side of the ship. There was a fire below the decks. They were already sabotaging the ship by the time it got to the open sea. All they had to do was not warn about the icebergs, which they did not. They swung the ship to the side and delivered it to the iceberg to sink it. They replaced the emergency red flares with white flares, so when they blasted them off, other ships in the area saw white flares — which looked like a party — instead of red flares, which would have been a cry for help. They also sabotaged the radio room.
Max: Someone wants me to ask about the quote “get off that ship” from a Jesuit provincial.
Eric: There was a Jesuit priest whose brother was also a Jesuit, and he was the nephew of the Bishop of Ireland. He was sent to the Titanic to minister to the first-class passengers. When one of the first-class passengers offered to pay his passage to New York, the Jesuit provincial sent a message to the priest, and the provincial sent a reply: “Get off that ship.” So he got off, and he went on to become a very notable Jesuit in Ireland and England, and of course he had foreknowledge of the sinking of the Titanic.
Max: That reminds me of the FBI agents who got mysterious messages telling them not to show up for work at the World Trade Center that morning before it happened.
The Knights of Malta and 9/11
Eric: George Tenet was the overseer of the World Trade Center demolition. George Tenet was a Knight of Malta. He was the Director of Central Intelligence and he was also on staff at the National Security Council. So a Knight of Malta was a very key figure in facilitating the demolition so the Muslims could be blamed and they could ignite another crusade against Islam, particularly Shia Islam. They are going to unite the Sunnis against the West. Who had the power to allow no photographs of the crime scene? No one could look at or touch the crime scene evidence. They ripped it all up and shipped it away to China, destroying evidence of controlled demolition. Same company that was used to demolish the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.
Max: Tell us about the Knights of Malta. Some listeners might be unfamiliar. Give us the crash course.
Eric: The Knights of Malta were created during the First Crusade in 1099 to recapture Jerusalem from the Muslims. They were founded by Blessed Gerard as a hospitaller order — a military order. They were later called the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem, then the Knights of Rhodes, and ultimately they moved to Malta. They are a sovereign nation with ambassadors to many countries. Their headquarters is in Rome. The Knights of Malta have their own passports and can travel anywhere in the world.
Max: I have heard that Hollywood actors like Anthony Hopkins, Sylvester Stallone, Tom Cruise, Bruce Willis, Robert De Niro, and Jack Nicholson are all Knights of Malta. Why are all these actors brought into the fold?
Eric: They are probably told just enough to be useful. They are made to feel special, like they are one of the inner circle, but they are still kept outside the real inner circle. They rub shoulders with prominent Knights of Malta like the monarchs and nobility of Europe. They rub shoulders with the Rothschilds, who are Knights of Malta, married into families of power. The Knights of Malta in Rome run the banking, all the politics, all the intelligence communities. It goes right down to entertainment. Frank Capra was a Knight of Malta.
The 2012 Presidential Election
Max: What about this election? It is all an illusion of democracy, an illusion of choice, right?
Eric: Both candidates are controlled. Barack Obama’s real father was not who we were told. Frank Marshall Davis was a communist in Chicago. The connection of Bill Ayers to Obama is a result of this because Ayers’ father was a higher-level CIA operative. Obama has two missing years at Columbia that nobody can account for. The CIA creates these left-wing entities backed by certain handlers and campaign managers like Rahm Emanuel. Then you have the right wing represented by Fox News. Both the left-wing CNN and MSNBC crowd and the right-wing Fox News and John Birch Society crowd are controlled by the Jesuits through the CIA. The synthesis is completely in their hands. Both sides.
Max: The voting machines have been shown to be rigged as well.
Eric: They are going to put Obama in for another four years and they are going to drive the white people in this country to desperation, to drive them into right-wing fascism, into the arms of somebody like Jesse Ventura, who has recently announced his candidacy for presidency in 2016. The endgame is right-wing fascism.
Max: Let us go back to the missing two years at Columbia. Any idea where Obama was?
Eric: He was traveling alone under CIA orders into Indonesia and Pakistan.
Max: You mentioned some names in the article about Obama’s white papal masters. What are the big names?
Eric: Gregory Galluzzo was a Jesuit in Chicago. Obama worked under him. Galluzzo founded the Gamaliel Foundation, which Obama worked for in Chicago. Then there is Zbigniew Brzezinski, the creator of Al-Qaeda and also one of the creators of Obama as a political figure. Brzezinski has honorary degrees from Georgetown, Holy Cross, and a few others. He is a Knight of Malta, a Bilderberg member, a Trilateral Commission member. Then there is Joseph Nye at Harvard, who is president of the Council on Foreign Relations in New York. He was one of those responsible for putting Michael Bloomberg in office as mayor of New York City.
Mormonism, Freemasonry, and Mitt Romney
Max: What do we need to know about Mitt Romney?
Eric: Romney is a devoted Mormon, but the Jesuits were the ones who established Mormonism. Joseph Smith was a Freemason. When Brigham Young was taking his Mormons west, there was a Jesuit in the country named Pierre-Jean De Smet who directed Brigham Young to take his people to the Salt Lake Valley in Utah Territory. So the Jesuits own Mormonism as a coadjutor tool for several purposes. One of the purposes is to track the world’s Jews through their genealogy records, which are stored five hundred feet underground in Granite Mountain. The Mormon prophets and the twelve apostles are all Freemasons. You see Masonic symbols in the Mormon temple in Utah. The Scottish Rite controls Mormonism. The Jesuits did not just infiltrate Freemasonry — they created it and they control the Craft worldwide. The black Freemasons, Prince Hall Rite, Scottish Rite, Grand Orient — the Jesuits control every lodge and every Masonic rite for the purpose of bringing more power to the papacy.
Max: So Romney is part of it. What about the Mormon temple rituals and the sacred undergarments?
Eric: The Mormon holy undergarments have symbols on them. When you go through the Mormon temple endowment ceremony, you receive special garments with these symbols. The original endowment ceremony involved certain Masonic rituals that nobody talks about.
Predictions: Iran, Invasion, and the Endgame
Max: Back to the election. What happens tomorrow? What should the listeners know as far as the Jesuit manipulation from a high level? What do you see happening after the election? Some listeners are curious about the timeline on the war with Iran.
Eric: They are going to put Obama back in office and there is going to be evident voter tampering. This is going to be used to unite all the white people regardless of their religion, to take the Catholics and Protestants in an ecumenical movement to unite them politically. This is going to further divide black and white. You will have the blacks on the Democratic side backing Obama. Remember, the real master is not the president. He is just a tool. The real president is Joe Biden, the Roman Catholic, who has degrees from the Jesuit university, specifically St. Joseph’s University in Philadelphia. He is the real president.
When they finish ramming all the horrible legislation down our throats, which includes gun confiscation, they are going to drive the white people in this country to utter desperation, rage, and anger. Then they will be in a position to want a right-wing militaristic leader who will essentially be fascist. All of this will be blamed on what is perceived as left-wing legislation, and that will be blamed on the Jews. What is coming for this country is what they did in Germany.
The next thing is to successfully pull off a military occupation of the country and start filling the concentration camps. To do that, you have to have war. We are going to have war in Iran. The Jesuit Superior General Adolfo Nicolas, who was the provincial in Japan and speaks perfect Japanese, is a martial artist, and is highly capable — he is the one orchestrating the war in the Far East. Another Jesuit is orchestrating the war in the Middle East because he was the provincial in Beirut, which covered Syria, Lebanon, and Egypt, meaning he ran the operations in Cairo, Damascus, and Beirut. He speaks Arabic. So you have Nicolas overseeing what goes on in the Far East.
The US military will be betrayed. The Joint Chiefs of Staff will betray our troops on both fronts, just as Hitler’s Germany was betrayed. Then we will have our forces destroyed, and we will be open to invasion. Japan will be involved, as will the Red Chinese along with Korea. There will be a massive invasion on the West Coast. That is why they gave Long Beach port to the Chinese. That is why the company that inspects every container that comes to California is a Chinese company. That is why they gave China control of the Panama Canal. That is why they gave Hong Kong back to Red China. They are building China up for the purpose of using them militarily for invasion. Alexander Haig’s brother was a Jesuit, and Alexander Haig was senior military advisor for the Chinese Overseas Shipping Company. They have been building China for a coming invasion. They gave away all of our military secrets through CIA and Chinese intelligence working together.
Max: My jaw is on the floor. When do you think the war in Iran will start?
Eric: After the election. Obama is a Sunni, so he hates the Shiites. He is very much willing to wage war against Iran because Iran is Shia. There are also Sunni mosques and Jewish communities in Iran, so there are targets to destroy. I would say it will be sometime next year. They have carrier groups in the area. They need about five carrier groups surrounding Iran in preparation for this war. US troops in Afghanistan and Pakistan will be used as well. We have fourteen bases in Iraq, all in preparation for this war.
Max: I had also read that Iran was one of the few countries left that did not participate in the international banking system.
Eric: They are rebuilding Babylon. That was one of the major purposes for the war in Iraq. The US troops guarded the rebuilding of Babylon. They are going to have the dinar as the currency for the new caliphate. It will include Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Egypt, and all of North Africa. The new caliphate will be spearheaded by the Muslim Brotherhood, which was created in 1928 by the Jesuits. The Muslim Brotherhood is overseen by the CIA.
Max: Where does the Mossad fit into this?
Eric: The Mossad is a subsidiary of the CIA. It was created in 1951. The tail does not wag the dog. The CIA tells the Mossad what to do. The government of Israel was created by the papacy because Israel in the eyes of the Pope is nothing more than a revival of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem that was destroyed in 1291. They want Jerusalem most of all, and ultimately the Temple Mount will be ceded to the papacy. So the papacy really controls Israel in preparation for rebuilding the Temple. After this war, Israel and the Jews are going to suffer. America will be blamed for the destruction, and that will be used to unite the world against us.
Canada and Closing Remarks
Max: We have a listener question about Canada. What is in store for Canada in the long run? Will it be a safe place to be? Will there be martial law in Canada?
Eric: Canada will be under martial law along with Mexico as part of the North American Union, which will be their axis power. The Roman Catholic Mexican invasion into the US, the opening of the borders — Knights of Malta have facilitated all of this for the coming forced unification of Canada, the US, and Mexico. All will be under martial law. For Canadians, the best place to be is the eastern part — like Nova Scotia and New Brunswick — because I believe an invasion by European forces will take a portion of Canada and the New England area of the US. The white Protestant areas of Ontario all the way to British Columbia are going to be targeted by the Russians and Chinese. So I would stay in the eastern portion of Canada.
Max: That concludes the show for tonight. Decrypted Matrix with Eric Jon Phelps from VaticanAssassins.org. Thank you so much, Eric. We cannot wait to see you next Monday for Part Two. For the new listeners, go to VaticanAssassins.org/store to check out Eric’s book. Any final words for the listeners?
Eric: Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved.
Max: Thanks so much for coming on. We will see you next Monday. Good night, and thanks for listening to Revealing Talk Radio.



