Eric Jon Phelps was again on the Decrypted Matrix show on Revealing Talk Radio, November 12, 2012 at Midnight EST / 9pm PST. During last Monday night’s show it became apparent that Decrypted Matrix host, Max Maverick, was not going to get everything he wanted in the show. After the show, the ratings, site traffic and archive hits of the show made it quite obvious that this coming show would be important.
Show Transcript
Introduction: Eric Jon Phelps Returns for Part II
This is DCMX Radio on Revealing Talk Radio. Ladies and gentlemen, children of all ages, do we have a show for you tonight. Part two with Eric Jon Phelps, founder, creator, and walking encyclopedia. You might know him from the Vatican Assassins website. We’re about to bring him on the line. You might remember last episode, if you were lucky enough to join in for part one. We talked about the Jesuits, we talked about the purposeful sinking of the Titanic, and so much more. We got ourselves all over the map during that interview. His vast knowledge cannot be repudiated. He consistently backs up his research with evidence and more research. Like I said, he is a walking, talking encyclopedia of information. You might also remember that Eric stated quite confidently that Obama would be installed for another term, and he was absolutely correct. So without further ado, let’s jump right into it tonight. Mr. Eric Jon Phelps, are you with us?
Eric: Yes, great connection.
Max: New listeners, this is awesome. I couldn’t be more thrilled about tonight’s episode. We covered a lot of topics last time. You surprised me with a few. I think it’s important that maybe we start off with the election. I think you probably have some information now that the election has concluded. You were absolutely right, Obama was given another four years, and I want to know your thoughts on this. What more can you bring to the table regarding election 2012?
Obama’s Second Term and the Power Structure
Eric: Others had been saying Obama would be put back in office, and very few of them said otherwise. I maintain that he is a lame duck president, aided and abetted by the Democratic Senate. He can do whatever he is told to do through the most illustrious Jesuits. His right-hand man, Joe Biden, is a true Knight of Malta with degrees from St. Joseph’s University in Philadelphia and the University of Scranton, which is by the way a big recruiting station for the CIA. So we have another term of the notorious communist, homosexual, Sunni Muslim. He embodies everything that the Jesuits want as an enemy when they raise a fascist white backlash, probably in 2016. So Obama is going to revel in the most horrible legislation. They’re going to ban every rifle and every shotgun so that the American people will not be able to defend themselves. Then they’re going to raise the income taxes to further destroy the historic white Protestant middle class. With the confiscation of guns and more laws suppressing liberty and constitutional rights, it’s just going to keep spiraling, and all people are going to be driven to unite. The Catholics, the Protestants, the Baptists, the atheists, all of them driven into desperation to ultimately support right-wing fascism. The designated enemy of this fascist party coming to power will be all the Muslims in the country, the blacks in the country, the Jews, the Hispanics, homosexuals. All these enemies embodied in the very diverse Obama. There will be a reaction to the coming white fascist movement, spurred on by the Tea Party movement and the Council for National Policy. Obama was the best thing they could have put in through the CIA.
Max: Wow. Walking, talking encyclopedia of information. It sure sounds like the classic divide-and-conquer strategy. That’s the whole war that we’ve heard of. That is certainly a method of doing it, to get the people to fight amongst themselves. Divide and conquer has always been a strategy going back thousands of years. I think you’re right on the money regarding Obama.
The Al Smith Dinner and Knights of Malta in Banking
Max: Last month in October there was the Al Smith Dinner. Tell us about that dinner and some particular guests, including the man sitting to Obama’s left.
Eric: The Al Smith Dinner is an annual dinner that the Archbishop of New York puts on every year, especially every election year, because he has the presidential candidates there. It’s a demonstration of the political and economic power of the Archbishop of New York. You see the real people of the Pope’s power structure in this country. One of the men sitting next to Obama’s left, according to pictures that were sent to me by researchers, was a man named Christopher Quick. His accomplishments are stunning. Christopher Quick is a Jesuit-trained man from Fairfield University. He’s on its board of trustees. Fairfield University is in Connecticut. He’s a member of the board of directors of the Alfred E. Smith Foundation, and a Knight of Malta.
Now, Al Smith ran for president in 1928. He was defeated because of anti-Catholic sentiment. The Ku Klux Klan at the time was being used to neutralize white nationalists by bringing them into the Klan so that they would not be effective against the papal conspiracy. Al Smith was also a personal friend of Nicholas Brady, a Knight of Malta who had over a hundred corporations and was wealthier than John D. Rockefeller Jr. He and his wife Genevieve Brady were very influential.
But back to this guy Chris Quick. He is on the board of directors of the Alfred E. Smith Foundation, a Knight of Malta, and here’s another example of the Irish Roman Catholic power on Wall Street. He’s a former vice chairman of Bank of America. Remember, Bank of America used to be the Bank of Italy. This was founded as a bank to service the Jesuits. Charles Chiniquy, checking in his masterpiece Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, noted that the founder of the bank was a guy named A.P. Giannini. He was an Italian Roman Catholic and a Knight of Malta. He was the personal friend of the actual chairman of the Federal Reserve in the 1930s. They worked together in passing the Banking Act.
So here you have Chris Quick, a former vice chairman of Bank of America and vice chairman of global wealth and investment management at Bank of America. Bank of America controls our money. It is one of the largest banks in the world. So here you have, next to Obama, next to the man positioned as a figurehead for the power structure, this Chris Quick, a white Irish Catholic American Knight of Malta, the right hand of Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York City. He is advocating for Obama for the purpose of paving the way for white fascism in this country, as I mentioned previously.
Max: That is crazy. So to confirm, when you say “of the Order,” that means it’s owned by the Jesuits?
Eric: Correct.
Max: Interesting. So we have this banking system that seems to be at the center of everything. Most people already know that. But I’ve never heard of this guy. You’re blowing my mind. Keep going.
Eric: And this is just a Google search away. Another guy’s name is Jeffrey Honesty. He’s also at J.P. Morgan Chase. A few more names that are in these positions, also a Knight of Malta. Not the Jews. The major banks in New York are run by Knights of Malta. So Chris Quick, along with the founders of these other banks, are all high Knights of Malta. As I’ve said previously, the most powerful financial pillars in the world are all Roman Catholics. The Borgias, the Farneses, the Colonnas, all of these are the Italian noble Catholic families, all high Knights of Malta, running the finances, the currencies, and the gold of the world. There are no Jews involved in this at the top. The Rothschilds are all Catholics and Knights of Malta. They all work for the papacy. The Jews run nothing.
Max: That’s so funny, because how often do we hear from those other hosts and other websites that think they know what’s going on saying it’s all about the Jews? It’s ridiculous. But luckily, Jesus in Luke 21:22 warned us about what’s happening in Jerusalem. The Jews will be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Eric: When the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled, then the Lord Jesus Christ will return. His kingdom will smash all enemies. The nations that survive the Great Tribulation will come under His control. Israel is truly the greatest nation. We’re living in the times of the Gentiles, and that will continue. Therefore, the Gentiles, the nations, are the ones who run Jerusalem, not the Jews. The Jews run Jerusalem at the behest of the papacy, not for the benefit of the Jews living there.
Max: That’s a really good point. I’m glad you put it that way because that makes it much more clear, not only for myself but for many of our listeners out there. There is such a thin line between the information we can find about the Zionists and the Knights of Malta. I think everybody, and I mean I’m guilty of it myself, puts them all into the same big basket saying they’re the ones in control. Well, it’s really more complicated than that, and thanks to you, it helps us sort through a very messy situation.
Eric: Remember too that the Jesuits are the true authors of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. I discovered this years ago. If you read Emmett McLoughlin’s great work Behind the Dictators, written in 1942, he was an ex-priest from a Catholic parish in New York City. He wrote Behind the Dictators and stated that the Jesuits were the authors of the Protocols. The Jesuits consider themselves the real Zionists. This whole Zionist movement really began not with the Rothschilds in England but with Napoleon Bonaparte. Napoleon called for making Palestine the homeland of the Jews, because Napoleon’s adviser, his director, was a Jesuit who was the second most powerful person on the Council. So Napoleon was a tool of the Jesuits, and all of his military campaigns were done at their direction. And even before that was Christopher Columbus, who wanted to see the rebuilding of the Temple in Palestine as a homeland for the Jews, because Columbus was working for the papacy.
Jerusalem, the Bush Family, and Geopolitical Control
Max: Some would say Palestine, some would say Jerusalem. Speaking of Jerusalem, doesn’t the Bush family have some kind of ties to Jerusalem?
Eric: The Bush family is Masonic. They are connected to Freemasonry in the Middle East, to the Grand Orient Lodge of Cairo and the lodge in Istanbul, Turkey. Those are the two big Masonic lodges where the Jesuit-controlled Muslim leaders come from. The Bushes are part of that. The Bushes, for twenty-five years, have been absolutely connected to the papacy. George H.W. Bush was Skull and Bones. George W. Bush was Skull and Bones. George’s brother is a Knight of Columbus. George H.W. Bush’s brother is a Knight of Malta and a member of the Order, because he entertained the former Grand Master of the Knights of Malta in the White House in the 1990s.
So what we have is the Bush family living like a Vatican outpost. They all want Jerusalem to be directed by the Pope. In 1993, under the direction of the Oslo Accords, which was a distraction, they gave all the holy places in Jerusalem to the papacy, and especially the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount is the property of the Pope. When I was in Israel, about eight years ago, people there in the city told me the Vatican owns sixty percent of all the land in Jerusalem.
Max: I absolutely believe that.
Eric: Remember, the first Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem was founded in 1099, when the Crusaders and the Knights Hospitaller took Jerusalem from the Muslims, and they held it until 1187, when Saladin took it back. You can see that in the movie Kingdom of Heaven, the director’s cut. Then the Templars and the Hospitallers remained during the Crusades. In 1291, the Mamluks drove out the Templars and killed all the Catholics. From 1291 to 1917, Jerusalem was in Muslim hands.
In 1917, you have General Allenby, the British commander, who liberated Jerusalem. He walked into Jerusalem on foot, which was significant. He entered humbly. Since the Jesuits controlled the British Crown since no later than King George III, the Jesuits, using Great Britain, took Jerusalem from the Muslims to lay the foundation for the reestablishment of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, which took place in 1948. The reestablishment of the Kingdom of Jerusalem is exactly what the Pope wanted, because he placed it in the hands of Zionist Jewish Labor, which were there to enable him to rebuild Solomon’s Temple, which is the ultimate goal.
This is very important. 1917, the taking of Jerusalem. Then the creation of the State of Israel in 1948 was enabled by Freemason Harry Truman, Freemason Winston Churchill, and Freemason Joseph Stalin. All three consented to the establishment of Israel. All three were serving the Jesuits.
Max: That absolutely makes sense. I have a feeling you will not hear this stuff figured out anywhere else. VaticanAssassins.org is the website. We’ve also got some content up on DecryptedMatrix.com. Let’s switch gears just a little bit.
The Sinking of the Titanic and the Federal Reserve
Max: We’ve got a question from feedback on last week’s show about the Titanic. How did the Jesuits motivate Captain Smith to sabotage the Titanic? Did he believe that he was going to be rescued? As we all know, “I will not leave my crew. I will go down with this ship.” Is that really what happened?
Eric: There are some who say that Captain Smith escaped and survived the Titanic disaster, but I maintain that he went down with it. Captain Smith was a Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor, a man who sets aside his own will for the benefit of the Jesuit Order. He was a soldier, a warrior for the Order.
For example, on the Titanic, remember that Francis Browne, a Jesuit, was there on the ship taking all the pictures. Only a Jesuit would be given permission to take photographs on that ship. You can be sure that the Jesuit Provincial had informed Captain Smith that it was of absolute utmost importance that he sink the ship, because if you do not sink the ship, the Federal Reserve Act will not be passed in America. The Federal Reserve Act was necessary for the setting up of the central bank, pursuant to the Communist Manifesto, so that the central bank could extend credit to the American government to finance the building of a military-industrial complex, which includes the steel industry set up by J.P. Morgan. They were going to build a huge steel industry, a huge shipbuilding industry, a huge war industry in America. To do this, they had to have the Federal Reserve Bank in place to extend bogus credit to the American Congress so they could pass bills and finance the building of this complex to conduct the world wars to restore papal power.
I’m sure Captain Smith knew this. And by the way, the Jesuits managed to get to the dock just about a week or so before the Titanic set sail and they replaced all the normal hands of the ship that were in the union with other hands. These were different men on the Titanic.
Max: Wow, so most of the original crew had been swapped out. Some kind of inside job, absolutely. And remember that Francis Browne spent time with the Captain and the entire officer crew before he left the ship. You can be sure that he was giving them new orders. “This is what must be done” because of the people on the ship who opposed the Federal Reserve.
Eric: Right. And they were led by John Jacob Astor, who was the wealthiest man in America at the time. Also on the ship was Isidor Straus, who was a Jew, very influential in New York, a personal friend of Louis Brandeis, who at the time was against the Federal Reserve Act. Brandeis later became a traitor because he’s the one who delivered the Balfour Declaration. Also Benjamin Guggenheim was on the ship. Guggenheim, Straus, and Astor all had to go.
Max: I usually don’t divide it up between good guys and bad guys, but if I had to here, it sounds like there were some good guys on that ship who knew how bad the Federal Reserve would be for humanity, for America, in the long run. And the bad guys knew it too. They knew how important it was to take them out.
Eric: That’s just it. And remember, J.P. Morgan, the white gentile front man, he was not Jewish. He was the all-powerful banker in North America, managing the Pope’s banking affairs. He was facilitating an economic crash, like the Panic of 1907, which they used to justify the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank in 1913.
Max: The timing is interesting. The Panic of 1907 and then the Federal Reserve makes total sense. They created a crisis on the gold issue so that they could justify having an expanding and collapsing currency. “We can prevent anything like this from ever happening again,” when they actually facilitated more booms and busts. The classic problem-reaction-solution. They want to bring in a new solution, but how? So they create the problem first, the people react, and they beg for the very solution that was planned all along.
Rapid-Fire Questions: Cannabis, Lincoln’s Assassination, and More
Max: We’ve got a new question from a listener. Can you ask Eric Phelps if he knows whether pedophilia and polygamy will eventually become legalized? And will it be before or after the 2016 election?
Eric: Well, whether or not they legalize it, in Washington State they just legalized cannabis, and Colorado as well. It’ll be interesting if they legalize only smoking cannabis but not the full use of it. Because you can make this wonderful oil of cannabis. I had a good friend who was in the hospital and used cannabis oil, and today he’s alive. You can make this wonderful oil that, according to one German study, reverses prostate cancer. So it has a wonderful medicinal use. But just smoking it randomly, I’ve never met anybody who smoked marijuana who didn’t have some kind of memory problem.
Max: What’s interesting is they want to legalize cannabis but not hemp. You can’t make anything out of cannabis smoke, but from hemp you can make clothing, you can build a car, you can make rope, you can make anything out of hemp. It would be great because America’s regions can grow it. But they’ll legalize cannabis while you still can’t grow hemp.
Eric: I did a whole episode on this a few months ago. Hemp is an extremely strong fiber. You can make better paper, better rope, a better alternative to plastic. They’re even eco-friendly now.
Max: Of course it’s a threat to all the chemical companies.
Eric: That’s right. It’s a threat to the oil industry too. The whole petroleum-based industrial complex would be undermined.
Max: Eric, I don’t think they’ll legalize pedophilia or polygamy because the Pope’s mafia is in a huge business of child slavery and child labor. If something is illegal, it’s probably that way because it is the most profitable to keep illegal. It’s not illegal because it’s bad for people. It’s that way because the status quo is profitable.
Max: Absolutely. Now, about John Wilkes Booth. How did he get away, and how was he eventually caught?
Eric: Booth escaped to Canada. According to Charles Chiniquy in his masterpiece Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, written in 1886, Booth escaped through Canada, went back to Liverpool, then from Liverpool went to Rome and was congratulated on overseeing the Lincoln assassination. There he was brought into the Pope’s private chambers. Then he was stationed in Alexandria, Egypt. There’s actually a photograph, first published to my knowledge by Burke McCarty in her work The Suppression of the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln, published in 1924. There he is in Alexandria, Egypt. Eventually one man told the truth about where he was, which enabled him to be arrested in 1867 and brought back to the US for trial. And by the way, Andrew Johnson removed the bounty on John Surratt, which disabled all the private detectives from finding him. So Andrew Johnson was also involved in the conspiracy.
Surratt was brought to two trials. He was acquitted because of a Roman Catholic on the jury who used jury nullification, and after that he went to work for the O’Hanlon Baltimore Steamship Company. This is all in The Suppression of the Assassination of Lincoln.
Max: Interesting. Is it true that the Pope was the only world leader to not send condolences to the US government after Lincoln’s death?
Eric: Interesting question. We have to remember the papacy’s methods. They always have an open policy and a secret policy. The open policy is public, the secret policy is the true one. The open policy regarding Lincoln was to appear to back the South. The Pope’s letter to Jefferson Davis confirmed that. But the secret policy was that the Jesuits were behind the Radical Republicans in the North. That’s who they wanted to win. Because what resulted from the war was the creation of a new nation in 1868 with the Fourteenth Amendment, which was exactly what the Jesuits wanted: a consolidation of power in Washington, reducing the states to mere provinces, as in Canada or any other form of Roman Catholic centralized government.
9/11, the Gulf Oil Spill, Bin Laden, Drones, and Petraeus
Max: We’re coming to the conclusion of the show, about ten minutes left. Let’s hit some rapid-fire topics and questions. Are there any ties to the Jesuits regarding 9/11? Was there gold in the World Trade Center, and had it been taken out before?
Eric: There was gold, but it was taken out just before. Obviously someone knew it was going to happen. The Pope holds all the gold.
Max: Of course. Moving along, whatever happened to the Gulf oil crisis? It doesn’t seem to be our problem anymore. It just disappeared.
Eric: The Gulf oil crisis was deliberately created so that Obama could further stop offshore drilling. That oil rig platform was deliberately sabotaged, and today it’s used to justify no oil drilling offshore.
Max: What about the CIA asset Osama bin Laden? Did he really die the way they said?
Eric: According to Benazir Bhutto, she told the truth on Al Jazeera and admitted that bin Laden was killed December 13, 2001. He was poisoned. So he’s been dead since the start of the so-called crusade in 2001.
Max: That makes sense, because the best public enemy number one is a dead one. You can attribute whatever you want to him. Then the whole charade of the Navy SEALs going in to kill him was complete nonsense.
Eric: Absolutely. And Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize while he was putting out drone strikes, one militant for every fifty civilians. Then the burial at sea was absolutely hilarious.
Max: Tell us more about the bin Laden and Bush family connection.
Eric: The bin Laden family has done business with the Bushes for years. Bin Laden was really a creation of the intelligence community, set up through the CIA. Obama had a handler as well. Zbigniew Brzezinski further proves that it was a CIA operation. The CIA, which is the Catholic Intelligence Agency really, controls all these different factions: Hamas, al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood. They’re all controlled through the Jesuits, who are the nuts and bolts of controlling all these different factions for the papacy.
Max: Speaking of the drones, is Obama really controlling those drones, or is there Jesuit influence on how these drones are used?
Eric: Of course. The whole military-industrial complex is run by the Knights of Malta and Freemasons and Knights of Columbus. All the secret societies are running the intelligence community. The Jesuits are absolutely running the CIA, which has a larger budget than the rest of the intelligence community combined, with their own military. Lockheed, Northrop, you name it, whatever they make is for the benefit of the papacy. So when they say Obama did something, it’s really the Jesuits running the CIA.
Max: It makes sense. Somebody is going to take the blame for all these decisions, and better him than the guys who really pull the strings. Speaking of which, General Petraeus resigns as Director of the CIA because his emails were monitored by the FBI. Obviously that’s a cover story. We know the sexual scandal was just a pretext. Now he doesn’t have to testify before Congress. The public buys it all. “He had an affair.” And the story continues to change, like every good conspiracy. It sticks out because the official version has changed multiple times.
Eric: And they silenced him. They stopped him from telling us what he really knew. They’ll accuse you of something far less damaging than the truth. It was done because Petraeus was a person who could betray the inner circle.
Max: There was also Larry Sinclair, a guy who took a lie detector test, passed with flying colors. His interview felt genuine. He wasn’t in it for attention. He was just saying, “This is my experience. Take it or leave it.” And his story was buried. Larry Sinclair is the real answer to why Petraeus was removed, not because of an affair that could easily be covered up or denied.
Max: They even caught high-resolution photos of Obama’s gold ring that says “There is no god but Allah” in Arabic, and the photos go all the way back to his days at Columbia. It’s the same ring that Michelle ended up giving him. Why is that not mainstream news? Obviously the Jesuits control the news and the media, and they didn’t want that to get out.
Eric: And they control the Republicans too. Not one of them says anything, including Ron Paul. I suspect that guy is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He has been to Rome something like fifty times. He’s absolutely tied to the papacy.
Closing: Part III Announcement
Max: Wow, we have about two and a half minutes left. I feel like we’ve just got so much more to talk about. Would there be any way we could come back for a part three, maybe next Monday?
Eric: If you wish, yes.
Max: The listeners are gonna be thrilled. I know there’s more that I want to ask, and every time we’ve got him on the phone we’re just drinking from a fire hose. You force me to drink your information from a fire hose, Eric. You’ve brought up names I’ve never even heard of. You mentioned Francis Browne and the real power and control of the noble families: the Borgias, the Farneses, the Colonnas, and a couple of others. These are the names that people should know. All of these families have produced Popes and cardinals. The papacy goes back to 1540 with the founding of the Jesuits. All of this is regarded as royal bloodlines, the Black Nobility of Rome. They keep the wealth within their families and they’re worth trillions.
Eric: Absolutely. That’s why we see guys like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates presented as the most wealthy men in the world. They’re merely the public face.
Max: There’s the music, we’re gonna have to go. It’s been an awesome hour. I know the listeners would agree. Eric, already on for next week. We’re gonna discuss assassinations. I’d love to talk about some of the assassinations through history. Can you collaborate on that?
Eric: I absolutely agree. Thank you so much again, Max. I’d just tell the listeners, trust the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior.
Max: Thank you, and we’ll have him back next Monday. Ladies and gentlemen, keep tuning in. VaticanAssassins.org is the website. Check out his book, Vatican Assassins: Wounded in the House of My Friends, eighteen hundred pages. You’ve got to check it out.
