She’s also one of the most popular. She claims to have interviewed hundreds of “above Top Secret” subjects; ex-military or government officials who are in the know about the way things really are. Kerry says that she’s seen or heard evidence of a veritable checklist of illuminati conspiracies: alien contact with the human race (including trade and commerce, some of which involves exchanging live humans for alien technology), interstellar war, human access to technologies 10,000 years beyond what’s been revealed to the average person… and genetically and biologically engineered supersoldiers. She was recently in Australia and we caught up with her to talk about all the things you’re (allegedly) not being told.
How have you found the response you’ve gotten to your ideas in Australia? I imagine there are some people who might label you a crackpot…
They don’t call me that to my face! So I don’t know!
So what do you mean by “above Top Secret” informants?
If you think of, say, Julian Assange and Edward Snowden as dealing with “Top Secret” information, I deal with information above that level.
What’s an example of that?
“Black Projects”, as we call them. Usually secret scientific projects that can be anything from genetic engineering to interstellar travel, building bases underground around the world, as well as building bases on other planets. Sending troops off the planet… any kind of project that the government doesn’t want the public to know about. And those things are vast. It could be something to do with a bio-weapon, it could be a plan to depopulate or take over a certain area. It could be regarding treaties with extra terrestrial races who’ve made contact with or have an interest in affairs on Earth. Whatever is entailed in running the world from behind the scenes.
Wow! So… one of your beliefs, and you claim to have proof of this, is that we’ve made contact with aliens. You’ve mentioned that United States President Dwight Eisenhower met with these extra terrestrials, and since then the human race been able to reverse engineer a number of alien technologies, even though the majority of us are being kept in the dark about it…
It’s not a belief. There is evidence. And it’s been happening since way before Eisenhower. Extra terrestrials have been interacting with humans for millennia. Other races, be they humanoid or not, have been involved with Earth, and some even consider Earth to be their home – they were here first. Eisenhower actually met with three races of aliens who were trying to make deals with the US Government.
Is it just the US Government they’d been dealing with?
They’d also been dealing with the Germans during World War Two, and they gave the Nazis technology. There’s also evidence that Tesla was assisted by ETs in his work.
OK. I see. So why do you think aliens have such an interest in Earth? What’s so good or special about us?
There are many things on Earth they find quite desirable, and I have a good number of whistleblowers who have given me information to that effect. My whistleblowers are predominantly ex-military, some of whom are still working for the Secret Government and who have spoken to me off the record. They [the aliens] are very interested in our gold, for example.
Our gold?
Yes. I’m told that gold on Earth is relatively easy to access when compared to getting it off an asteroid, which obviously would have issues when it comes to mining for gold.
You also mentioned aliens wanting to do business and form alliances with us…
Yes. Earth is also a very pleasurable place to do business. There’s also reason to use Earth as a jumping off point to explore the rest of the solar system and the galaxy. Also, apparently human females are considered to be extremely useful for breeding and genetic experimentation. [The extra terrestrials] also come here for food – certain reptilian races consider us as a food source. And then there are those that simply want to do commerce with us and utilise us as allies. We’re very good at building things and we’re also sending troops to conflicts around the universe.
Human soldiers are being sent to interstellar conflicts?
Soldiers who are alleged to be going to Iraq or Afghanistan are actually being sent off planet to places like Mars to fight battles alongside other alien races. Those men and women will have their minds wiped when they come back. This is why we’re having a lot of suicides with ex-soldiers. In some cases their minds have been wiped so many times they become unbalanced as a result. When they return, they don’t know where they’ve been. They think they’ve been to the Middle East, but they’ve actually been elsewhere.
Why do you think our governments and militaries are trying to keep this from us?
They make deals. A lot of the ET races we’re dealing with are extremely technologically advanced. They’re coming to Earth from far away places. They’re jumping through space – through portals – to get here, and they exchange technology for what they want on Earth.
You’ve mentioned that, on occasion, humans have been exchanged for alien technology.
Our governments exchanged humans. There are millions of children, and even adult humans, who have disappeared from the Earth. Humans have been exchanged for technology, and those humans have become slaves, or food sources… or used for breeding purposes. Some extra terrestrials are relatively friendly, others… not so much.
So I’m trying to get a grasp of your world view. Your hypothesis, which you’ve come to from interviewing people you believe to be “above Top Secret” informants, is that aliens exist. That they’ve been making contact with Earth for at least as long as humans have been around, and that there are “above Top Secret“ government and military programs through which we conduct commerce and, on occasion, form military alliances with said aliens. Some of that commerce involves exchanging humans for alien technology. Is that accurate?
Again, I don’t view it as a belief. It’s simply a reality. It doesn’t matter whether someone chooses to believe it or not. It’s like saying: “Does it rain?”. In my view, based on the eight-and-a-half years of investigations I’ve made and the huge amount of above Top Secret witnesses I’ve spoken to, I have to conclude that it’s not open to conjecture. Now, there are lot of people who would like to deny that reality, and there are governments that want to keep people in the dark. So my mission, if you will, is to wake people up to the reality of our interactions with alien races and also to the Secret Government that we know is in operation.
Are there aliens living among us?
We had a witness by the name of Tony Dodd, who was ex-military and very high up in the United Kingdom police. He contacted us behind the scenes. He came forward about some contacts he had within the British monarchy, government and military, and he revealed that they had teams of agents who would track down various aliens around the world. In some cases these teams were just keeping an eye on the aliens, in some cases they were tracking them and in some cases they were killing them. He told us we could be killed for using that information. But he was a very well respected individual in the police force in Britain.
If what you say is true – and whether or not anyone believes you’re a crazy person or whether you’re legitimate, I don’t doubt that you believe it’s true – then you must feel as though you’re in some kind of risk from the powers that be.
There have been people – a man named William Cooper is one, as is another man named Bill Schneider – who worked in above Top Secret for the military. They were killed for revealing information to the public. The bottom line is that yes, I’ve had my life threatened. I’ve had interference, because I have what you might call friends in high places: some extra terrestrials and some “white hats” – people high up in the government and the military who want disclosure. They’re fighting behind the scenes to leak information to the public. They use organisations like mine to help. So I’m being kept alive by a number of those individuals.
OK. So I was also interested in what you described as “supersoldiers”. You believe – or you’ve seen evidence to this effect – that there are humans who have been modified to become interstellar soldiers? How is this achieved? What are they used for?
There are a number of supersoldiers whom I’ve interviewed. They’re usually brought in from the military, but then they’ll have some of their powers enhanced – some by nanotechnology, some by genetic engineering. The ones who I’ve met have enhanced physical powers – they’re stronger, they’re faster, they have enhanced intelligence and psychic ability. They have superpowers. It’s almost like the X-Men films. In the case of a man named Dan Sherman, he was genetically altered. He’s written a book called Above Black. As a result of genetic enhancement and manipulation he has some special powers in terms of his ability to communicate with certain races of ETs in a telepathic capacity.
So who do you think is really in charge of Earth?
Call it what you want, some might call it the illuminati. There are different levels of illuminati, actually. Some are dark magicians – they use black magic. They go by certain occult philosophies. And they’re also Nazis. These are individuals who have banded together to create a new world order. They’re infiltrating all our governments, and they have been for some time now. They’re very much active in Australia, The United States, Europe, Britain… they’re building to a new world order.
Heavy. So am I gonna end up on some kind of government watch list as a result of this interview?
Well, fear is something that everyone needs to get over. That is the reptilian state of mind. A lot of the DNA in our leaders is reptialian- based, and they like to keep people cowering and under control. So I encourage everyone to investigate what I have to say and to watch the over 300 interviews I’ve done with people on the subject. There’s a tremendous amount of information out there. It’s about having an open mind and wanting to investigate what’s real and what’s not.
Expert Consultant, Museum Curator, Investigator, UFOlogist
Richard C. Hoagland is a former museum space science Curator; a former NASA Consultant; and, during the historic Apollo Missions to the Moon, was science advisor to Walter Cronkite and CBS News. In the mid-1960’s, at the age of 19 (possibly “the youngest museum curator in the country at the time”), Hoagland created his first elaborate commemorative event — around NASA’s first historic unmanned fly-by of the planet Mars, Mariner 4. A simultaneous all-night, transcontinental radio program the evening of the Encounter (linking the museum in Springfield, Mass., and NASA’s JPL control center, in Pasadena, Ca.), co-produced by Hoagland and WTIC-Radio, in Hartford, Ct., was subsequently nominated for a Peabody Award, one of journalism’s most prestigious.
In the early 1970’s, Hoagland proposed to Carl Sagan (along with Eric Burgess) the placement of a “message to Mankind” aboard Pioneer 10 — humanity’s “first unmanned probe of Jupiter“; subsequent to its 1973 Jovian Encounter, celestial mechanics resulted in Pioneer 10 becoming the first artifact to successfully escape the solar system into the vast Galaxy beyond — carrying “the Plaque” — whose origins were officially acknowledged by Sagan in the prestigious journal, SCIENCE (175 [1972], 881).
In the early 1980’s, based on NASA data from the more sophisticated unmanned Voyager fly-bys of the outer planets, Hoagland became the first to propose (in a widely-quoted series of UPI and AP stories on his startling paper, published in 1980 in Star & Sky magazine) the possible existence of “deep ocean life” under the global ice shield perpetually surrounding the enigmatic moon of Jupiter, Europa. At the time, most (though not all) NASA scientists instantly derided this idea; two outstanding dissenters from the unfortunately then-common NASA view were Director of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies, Dr. Robert Jastrow, and well-known science writer and visionary, Arthur C. Clarke. In the sequel to his outstanding epic “2001” (“2010: Odyssey Two”), built entirely around this extraordinary concept of “eon-old life in the ice-covered oceans of Europa,” Clarke wrote:
“The fascinating idea that there might be life on Europa . . . was first proposed by Richard C. Hoagland [in a 30-page article] in the magazine Star & Sky… This quite brilliant concept has been taken seriously by a number of astronomers (notably NASA’s Institute for Space Studies, Dr. Robert Jastrow), and may provide one of the best motives for the projected GALILEO Mission.”
Remarkably, before recent NASA press conferences and television documentaries, celebrating the successfully GALILEO probe of Jupiter’s atmosphere, December 7, 1995, NASA scientists’ “belated” acceptance of the startling possibility of “life in Europa’s oceans” has been widely presented and discussed. As is GALILEO’s potential acquisition of new data from its upcoming Europa fly-bys which could lead to actual confirmation (!) of the “Hoagland model.” Curiously, despite clearly prior publication and detailed elaboration of the concept, Hoagland’s name is not being mentioned anywhere by NASA, or by current GALILEO scientists, in connection with “Europa”…
In the early 1990’s Mr. Hoagland led a team of volunteers and consultants in the creation of a pioneering “space-age” inner-city educational effort at Dunbar Senior High, just off Capitol Hill, in Washington D.C. The experiment was built around the concept of “student involvement in real time’ mission planning and data acquisition” during various NASA planetary exploration missions, such as “Hubble” and the ill-fated “Mars Observer.” Starting as an after school extracurricular activity, and using donated state-of-the-art computer imaging equipment and enhancement algorithms, “The Enterprise Mission” and “becoming a crew member of the ‘U.S.S. Dunbar'” eventually became an accredited course in the Dunbar school curriculum. Over the years, scores of senior NASA Headquarters and Goddard Space Flight Center personnel have enthusiastically participated in the project, including installation of a student satellite data link direct to NASA and on-site briefing of students on many current NASA projects. Education advocate, then First Lady Barbara Bush, personally came to Dunbar early in the project, for a personal briefing by the students; this — the original “ENTERPRISE Mission” — was ultimately nominated for a White House “Point of Light” award.
For the last 13 years, since 1983, Hoagland has been leading an outside scientific Team in a critically acclaimed independent analysis of possible intelligently-designed artifacts on NASA (and other) data sets — beginning with the unmanned NASA VIKING mission to Mars in 1976, and its provocative images of a region called “Cydonia.” Hoagland and his Team have been invited at least four times to various NASA Centers since 1988, to brief thousands of NASA scientists and engineers on the results of their on-going “Cydonia investigation.” In 1989, Hoagland and his colleagues briefed then-Chairman of the House Committee on Space Science and Applications, Representative Robert Roe, on the status of their “Mars Investigation.” Chairman Roe, before his sudden and unexplained resignation from the Congress, directed NASA to acquire better images from Mars during its then-upcoming “Mars Observer mission”; Mars Observer’s equally sudden and tragic disappearance in 1993 precluded any new data relating to “Cydonia.” In 1993, Hoagland was awarded the International Angstrom Medal for Excellence in Science by the Angstrom Foundation, in Stockholm, Sweden, for that continuing research. In the last 4 years, he and his Team’s investigations have been quietly extended to include over 30 years of previously hidden data from NASA, Soviet, and Pentagon missions to the Moon — with startling results.
Philip Schneider was born April 23, 1947 and died (many assume murdered) in January 1996. Now Philip Schneider claimed to be an ex-government geologist and structural engineer who was involved in building underground military bases around the United States (possessing a level 3 security clearance, “Rhyolite 38”).
Not only that, but Philip Schneider also claimed he was one of only three people to have survived a deadly battle in which 66 American and NATO “Delta Force” soldiers were killed. This battle allegedly occurred in 1979 between Grey aliens and U.S. military and NATO forces at an underground base at Dulce , New Mexico.
The following is taken from a letter from the ex-wife of Philip Schneider (Cynthia Drayer) after learning of his death.
“Philip’s background was as a Structural Engineer. He was an expert on explosives and their effects on geologic structures. He worked under two social security numbers. Most of his early work in underground mountain bases with Morrison-Knudsen was done using the wrong social security number.
I was later able to prove that he had two numbers through the social security office when I applied for his daughter’s death benefits.
He worked for the Army Corps of Engineers and U.S. Navy with the same wrong number. Only after he obtained SSI in 1981 did his “real” number come into play. He always told me that he had a Rhyolitic Clearance and that his father had a Cosmic Clearance from his work with NATO. And that is the second reason why Philip began lecturing.”
For the last two years of his life, Schneider gave over 30 lectures to a variety of audiences across the globe, concerning conspiracy theories in which he claimed to be leaking information exposing them. However, Schneider was never able or willing to prove his allegations (e.g. showing the entrance to Dulce Base). His claims received little mainstream notice, but caused quite a buzz in UFO enthusiast circles.
Schneider was found dead in his Wilsonville, Oregon apartment on January 17, 1996. He had apparently been dead for several days (perhaps up to a week), and reportedly had a rubber hose wrapped three times around his neck. Tim Swartz writes that “Clackamas County Coroner’s office initially attributed Philip Schneider’s death to a stroke or heart attack.” Some suggest Schneider was murdered; supposedly because he was leaking information to the public, unveiling conspiracies. He in fact claimed to have avoided 13 murder attempts taken on his life during the time in which he was lecturing on conspiracy theories. He suffered multiple physical illnesses (osteoporosis, cancer, injuries). Officially, suicide is now stated as the cause of death.
The medical examiner took blood and urine samples at the autopsy but refused to analyze them, saying that the county would not “waste their money on a suicide”. Although samples would be kept for 12 months, when asked for these samples to be sent to an independent lab 11 months later they were “missing” and presumed “destroyed”. Schneider had missing fingers on his left hand, and limited motion in his shoulders. It may have been physically impossible for him to have held the rubber hose in his left hand with missing fingers and then wrap the hose three times with shoulders that had limited motion. In order to end up where his body was, he had to sit on the edge of his bed, wrap the hose around his neck, slowly and painfully strangle to death, and fallen head first into a wheel chair. Philip was an expert in chemicals and his own medical needs. He had multiple pills at hand that could have ended his life quickly and painlessly. He also had a 9mm handgun that he had borrowed to protect himself.
Military Intelligence Officer, ET Contactee, Author, UFOlogist
Bob Dean Robert O. Dean has been engaged in the field of UFO research for the last 40 years. He began this research on active duty in the US ARMY where he served for 27 years. He retired as Command Sergeant Major from the Army in 1976 as a highly decorated combat veteran after having served as an Infantry Unit Commander in combat in Korea and Vietnam. He also served in Intelligence Field Operations in Laos, Cambodia and North Vietnam.
Additionally, from 1963 to 1967 he served at Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE), NATO as an intelligence analyst with a Cosmic Top Secret clearance. While on this assignment, he helped move the headquarters to the new site in Belgium. Dean worked in the Operations Division and was a member of the inner Command Staff thereby working with and seeing the SACEUR (Supreme Allied Commander Europe) almost every day.
It was while he was stationed at SHAPE that Robert’s interest in UFOs first started. One night, while on duty, Robert removed a file from SHAPE’s security vault called “The Assessment” – An Evaluation of Possible Military Threat to Allied Forces in Europe”.
This file was given the highest security classification, COSMIC TOP SECRET. It retains that security classification to this day. The contents of this file opened Robert’s eyes to the existence of UFOs and extraterrestrial intelligence. He has, since reading “The Assessment”, dedicated his life to one goal: Bringing to light the true facts surrounding the UFO phenomenon and contact with extraterrestrial intelligence.
To this end, Robert’s current projects are directed toward gaining immunity for ex-military personnel (who may shed some light on the UFO issue), enabling them to testify before a Congressional Hearing without fear of losing their pensions or of prosecution.
is going public with his testimony about his service for the Mars Defense Force. The MDF is part of the Earth Defense Force, a UN “Unacknowledged Special Access Program”. His recruitment in 1987 into the “US Marine Corps Special Section” began a 20 year tour of duty working for the Mars Defense Force, which is the primary defense unit that protects the Mars Colony Corporation. This defense unit recruits people from many military services globally to protect the interests of the MCC, which consists of five civilian space colonies. Aries Prime is the main human “headquarters” on Mars, and is located inside of a crater.
According to Randy, the atmosphere on Mars is breathable, and the temperature there could be warm at times. He says there are two main indigenous species on Mars, both of which are highly intelligent. Essentially an aggressive reptilian species and an Insectiod species, both of whom were equally capable of defending their territories on Mars. There are bases both on the surface and underground. The indigenous Martian species, a reptoid, “old clan warrior class” are not particularly interested in expanding their territory, only maintaining it.
The EDF’s purpose is to protect the Mars Colony Corporation, and as long as these human interests did not encroach on the territory of the indigenous Martians, then relations there would be stable. However, as Randy tells of his experiences and secret operations while on Mars, maintaining peaceful relations is not always easy. After 17 years into his duty serving the EDF, a covert operation to retrieve ancient Reptilian temple artifacts within a Martian Cave resulted in a disastrous battle. Out of 1000 soldiers, only 28 survived, Randy being among one of the fortunate survivors.
Randy is continuing to retrieve his paperwork and documentation which validates that there is evidence of the Mars Defense Force, Lunar Operations Command, and Mars Colony Corporation as part of the breakaway civilization that is in continuous interaction with various ET species. It is not a black and white situation, as there are species who are considered extremely dangerous, neutral and benevolent.
In reality, for most supersoldier programs, the training starts long before the person is into adulthood or formally “recruited” into a particular branch of military covert operations. For Randy, his first abduction memory occurred at 3 years old or possibly younger, after which the “secret military” took advantage of his “hybrid upgrades” and placed him into a supersoldier project for 14 years as part of the Special Section of the USMC. Project Moonshadow* was actually the childhood program that prepped him for later service for the Mars Defense Force tour of duty. Then at age 17 in 1987 Randy was put into a block of soldiers who were sent to serve the Earth Defense Force. He was then contracted out from the EDF to work for the Mars Defense Force, which is the main defense contractor for the Mars Colony Corporation. He spent 20 years total, the last 2 and 3/4 years which were as a Captain on an airwing attached to the EDSS Nautilaus, under the command of Captain Montgomery Kirkland. At the end of Randy’s tour of duty, he and others were rotated back to the moon for debrief (Luna Operations) for reverse aging, a process that took several weeks to prepare him to be inserted back into his original timeline, 1987. The debrief consisted of memory suppression of his training and duties and some tests to determine the effects of influence of ET consciousness from Mars on his person. Randy’s memories of his ”return before age regression” period included being shown off to some military brass, some gladiator style fighting, and many medical tests and procedures. This reverse aging process was also described by former supersoldier Michael Relfe, of whom I also interviewed many years ago. (See: http://evelorgen.com/wp/articles/military-abduction-milabs-and-reptilians/interview-with-michael-and-stephanie-relfe-of-the-mars-records/)
Other testimonies about the existence of secret bases and operations on Mars have come forward, such as the great granddaughter of President Eisenhower, Laura Magdalene Eisenhower (https://sites.google.com/site/lauramagdalene/home/2012-and-the-ancient-game). She claimed that covert efforts were made to recruit her to join a colony on Mars. Andrew Basiago of Project Pegasus (See:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9xj2k-nw2o) also came forward with his experiences on Mars, and its breathable atmosphere, as well as some hostile animal species on the surface.
In my interview with Randy, I ask many pointed and personal questions about his memory retrieval, recovery process and ways of life in undercover operations. Spirituality plays a large part in Randy’s life as well as his continued healing and self empowerment journey. Without a solid connection to his “higher Self” and intense desire to be free, Randy would never have survived to tell about his experiences. He is an inspiration because of his resiliency, determination to be free and his willingness to fight for human freedom.
Note from Randy: *Project Moonshadow was the childhood program, there were 300 of us in the original program, about an 80/20 split of boys and girls. Project Moonshadow is/was a USMCss cooperative program with the Bronze ones. In 1987 I was officially transferred to USMCss general service pool. That pool (of about 10,000 personnel) was sent to Luna Operations Command (LOC) for individual assignments in the EDF system.
Interview Questions by Eve Lorgen
1. Randy can you explain the dates when you enlisted into the military (Navy?) and when you were formally discharged?
A: Let me first clarify that my covert drafting into a marine corps program is my military background. My attempt to enlist in the Navy was some sort of attempt, on my part, to do something that I fit in with. My leaving the Navy was a direct order from my Marine chain of command, as this would result in a conflict of duty and obligation and might disrupt my memory shell that was keeping everything contained. Then to answer your question I enlisted into the US Navy around June of 1988 and was done by Jan 1, 1989. Very brief. Right after boot camp I was approached by two men who were sent to extract me, so they could tinker with my programming and then I’d leave the Navy through my own actions, although those actions were programmed.
2. Why did you decide to go public with your story now?
A: After 3 years of trying to get access to my records through my congressman’s office, I was contacted by a former Commander who put me in touch with a Brigadier General who said my orders had changed and that I was to make plans to go public, publish books, do interviews, whatever necessary to get the job done. Or more simply put to your query, direct orders from my lawful chain of command.
3. When did you seriously start investigating your own history, and when did any flashbacks or bleed-through memories surface?
A: Age 27-30 was a period of time with a lot of the memory shell starting to crack open. As I think I mentioned on the phone, it is my current belief that this cracking and eventual removal of the memory shell was intentional and timed. By age 30 I was seriously trying to solve the puzzle, by age 33 I had a raw framework based on highly traumatic events, by 35, the memory shell was Swiss cheese and I could see the forest and the trees for the first time. It was truly shocking. My ego certainly collapsed and I thought my entire identity was coming apart. Turned out it was just trying to hatch out of the memory shell. I got over myself and decided I just needed to do my job. I haven’t really struggled with it since. Sure, there’s been continuing issues to sort out, but I’ve known who and what I am for some time, and I’m very clear on that.
4. In what order did you do self-healing and recovery methods–for example you mentioned in the 2006 interview that you had a healer perform an exorcism-type of spirit release work on you. Then, after this basic spirit release work, was when you were better able to communicate with your “higher Self”. Tell me what this felt like as opposed to other “voices in the head” or telepathic messages that often occur with MILABS and abductees.
A: I’ll say two things about the higher Self before I answer that. My training is that to truly and accurately connect with your higher Self, you first have to be able to connect with your lower Self. Your seven chakras are “you” and are the sandwich between those two Selves. Your higher Self is the eighth chakra, the lower Self is beneath the root chakra, below your feet, at the bottom of the prana tube that runs through your body. Having made that connection, your higher Self can have a way of making it VERY clear that you’re in communication with Him/Her. When “other” beings, even handlers that I think have good intentions, there is still a feeling of being invaded by something from outside of you. When you hear your higher Self, it’s a lot more like feeling some other part of you has been missing your whole life and then you and it are “home” again, once you reunite. It’s a very moving and emotional experience. But the major earmarks are the positive sensations. There’s certainly a bliss component. But also an empowering component. An experience that now, with your higher Self with you, there’s nothing you couldn’t do, but because your higher Self is present, this doesn’t become an ego state of narcissistic flawlessness or some other crazed sense of self importance. Just the very clear realization that all things are possible being connected with your higher Self. Mine used and uses mirrors. I know it may sound a bit odd to some, but I can look into a mirror and say the mantra and do the tone (that my higher Self taught me the first time we spoke) to connect to Him, and the entire reflection in the mirror goes away and all I see is my higher Self and where He resides. It was the COOLEST thing ever the first time it happened, but then I got a bit spooked by it, and for a long time wouldn’t look in a mirror, afraid of what I’d see. I thought I might be losing it. However, mirrors never do anything other than reflect a mirror image at me when I look at them, except when I talk to my higher Self, then and only then does he show Himself. So it’s consistent and without deviation, so I’m confident in the practice now. The mirror is still just a reflecting device, it’s just reflecting back something more cosmic that one might think is possible for a mirror to reflect. This much is certain. Your higher Self will never want you to do anything that surrenders your free will. So if something is trying to convince you that you’re not free, nor should you be, that’s definitely NOT your higher Self.
5. In your earlier interview you mentioned reptilians, draco, human military and other types of aliens. Recently you told me some bronze type of ET, as well as Saurians, Arcturans, Andromedans and other black-cloaked, shadowy “head figures” you realized later to be an aged reptilian masquerading as some powerful dark Lord. Tell me about the Bronze beings, and which ones you consider enemies to humanity and which ones are neutral or even benevolent to humanity.
A: That’s a lot in one question, I’ll do my best. The Bronze ones, also refer to themselves as the Grandchildren of the Great Dragon Li. They believe that the Galaxy is sentient and that they’re job is much like white blood cells in the body of the galaxy. They’re goal is to rid all planets in the galaxy of “cancer” and “disease” as they put it. We’re neither to them, we’re a part of the Gaian ecosystem that should have opportunity to flourish, but “infections” by other species and by a sociopathic strain in our own species threaten the whole ecosystem of the entire planet, and subsequently the entire solar system and this corner of the galaxy, potentially. They would like to stop what’s here before it spreads. Culling back the population to a few hundred million and starting over is an option for them, but they consider it very wasteful and would prefer to save the species, as is, while removing the harmful components. Much in the way a surgeon would rather do the delicate and complicated surgery to save the whole patient, if possible, but will amputate both arms and legs to keep the patient alive, if that’s the only option left to them.
My recollection from the EBE manual is a color coded system with four categories which all known species fall under. Green is for friendly species, White is for neutral/observer/non-interactive species. Yellow is for “potentially hazardous/unpredictable/may result in death” species, and Red for “Hostile”. The bulk of the manual is classified as White (neutral), with a handful in Green and dozen or more in the Yellow and 6 or 7 in the Red. The Red categories that I can recall are 1.Draconian reptoid, 2. Zeta I A’s and zeta I B’s (often referred to as Grey’s by civilians, as Whites by insiders) 3. Betelgeuse III’s (Harians) , and 2 others listed as “Non-Corporeal, Amorphous, Shadow Type A and Type B. Several in the Green category that I can remember would include, but not be limited to (and may have changed) Centauri, Vegans, Tau Cetians, Procynions, and some secretive warrior race called the AK-KA, no idea where they are from, no idea what they look like. But they were in the list, and it stood out because it was weird. That’s about all I recall off the top of my head.
6. Can you share some of the operations and duties you carried out while on the Mars Defense Force?
A: Our primary mission was defense of Forward Station Zebra and Grids 87-125 and 227-277 of Mars Colony “Vulcan” Settlement, named after the blacksmith of the same name. Secondary duties were to aid other divisions protecting the “Vulcan” settlement grid. And when organized by command, to assault or join other forces in assaulting native Martian hives of insectoids and reptoids–the two sentient species on Mars, other than us. We mostly operated in a powered armor/EV suit using some sort of gauss rifle, or rail gun as our primary field weapon. We were kept busy. If we weren’t fighting, we were training. Yes, we had “rec time”, but we spent an amazing number of hours training for future combat missions.
7. What about black operations on Earth for our own military?
A: Nothing exceptional or that I’d prefer to comment on. I recall crawling through jungles on three continents, and working with SEAL teams, Recon teams, and “other” teams using black fatigues and no insignia.
8. One of the most important things I feel need elaborating on is the type of programming you were put under. In the earlier interview you stated a dragon being helping you. Can you tell me a bit about the Dragon being who initially helped you with decoding the sophisticated mind control programming? What did you learn later from experience or your own higher Self, about this dragon being, and the programming details?
A: It appears in this entire process, “piggy-backers” and “parasites” of various kinds, can detect the presence of the main handlers in a MILAB situation, and will attach and/or use the system of implants in place to try and use the subject for their own purposes. The Dragon being was a parasite. He did a very interesting job of making me think I needed him, when I did not. It was simply an evolution process for me to be able to “see” what was real and what was deception. Programming details are hard to describe, when I’m looking at them in meditative theta states, they appear like lines of computer code. It was clear that what I was deleting was all “added software” a lot like malware, when I think about it. Downloaded by an ET hacker. I spent 90 minutes a night for a year deleting line after line after line. Very tedious work.
9. Can you say a bit about what we discovered when doing our hypnotherapeutic work with respect to the “Hero” Telius, a spiritual being who was melded with you, based on being in the same genetic line from ancient Atlantis?
A: That is curious. His name is Talus. I’m still not 100% certain what that’s all about. I’d rather not comment with incomplete data, but I’m working on it. I’m taking it seriously.
10. In hindsight can you explain how your own mind perception was being blocked from clear communication with your eternal Soul essence (higher Self) when we did the Dynamic Triad Color Test?
A: Dorica seemed to think it was a soul from Atlantis that was being “stored” inside me. I’m not so sure that’s correct. I’m not saying I have a definitive alternative answer, but I’m not convinced she’s correct. I don’t think there was an interference. It seemed to work just fine and brought me a ton of enlightening data that has proven very useful. I was having some problems with people above my chain of command whom the General said are “soulless pricks who can suck my johnson”, just prior to that session and things cleared up considerably after that.
11. Can you describe the military super soldier programming and alter personality creation, and how this may be different with what you described as an “over personality” and an “under personality” creation? Is this latter form of identity an alien/ET based type of programming? How do implants help with this type of programming?
A: During the separation of personalities it’s a bit confusing. Post breaking away of the outer personality, also referred to as the memory shell, I can speak clearly on this. In my case, the outer personality was created to hold down the inner personality, for a finite period of time. The inner personality is my true personality. The techniques used to make me have been described to me as “with the grain” style programming as opposed to most “against the grain” styles of programming that try to force supersoldiers to kill anything, anytime, anywhere, and as human animals, most of us just aren’t made that way, so we resist, so the main function becomes suppressing the urge to resist. Not with creating the best supersoldier you can, just the most compliant. “With the grain” style doesn’t try to create something that kills on command, but rather has deep seated instincts to protect its tribe and its territory when threatened. So as long as you can explain the threat credibly, the soldier will use all of its strength and cunning to destroy any that would harm those its genetically predisposed to protect. The more oppressive controls put in by the “soulless pricks” as the Gen likes to call them, were meant to be sorted out over time, which they were. The original design seems to be quite intricate as it seemed to account for an amazing number of variables that were calculated to work out, so the outer personality/memory shell would crack, fall apart, come clean away, and then the inner personality/core identity would be able to self heal and recover and ready itself for further instructions, while maintaining an incredible amount of free will, which I did. The implants are varied since there are several different types that I know are in my body somewhere. Some are simple geo-locaters or an audio/video link. Others that allow virtual teaching and training when you’re asleep. In my case, a host of nannites with the ability to restore cellular damage and fight unique infections. I’ve used them to heal nerve damage twice, on my own, so I can operate them as I see fit. Implants, regardless of what type, allow some kind of two way communication so the handlers can receive data and send instructions to the subject. It’s a very complicated and varied field of covert science. The more I learn about it, the more respect I have for it as very sophisticated and very well thought through technology. Which does make it that much more insidious, at times, and problematic to deal with. If I’ve said it once, I’ll say it a billion times, a yoga teacher of mine said to me, “How lucky for you that you have these machines in your body, what a gift to be given, because if they are in your body, they belong to you, not the men who put them there.” That was one of the most illuminating things anyone ever said to me, and it was the beginning of my implants being under my control and not under the control of those who put them there. The simple perception change on the matter of ownership.
12. In many of our conversations we’ve discussed how certain factions of the “secret government military” wanted to create a super soldier/hero who was created to want to defend his/her country/world on a non-controlled environment. In other words, more of a true superhero for the defense of the country or human race against malevolent alien/ET threats. You have stated it may not be as “black and white” as some researchers and MILABs claim in terms of the military or aliens being all “ good or evil”. Do they ever have any deep concerns about how many people are being “taken over” by malevolent alien types of entities such as possession, (like in the government) and how serious this psychopathic population really is now? Can you say something about this?
A: It would appear that what was once a fairly cohesive effort by a handful of covert programs to deal with the ET/exobiological/technological issues, is no longer cohesive or just a hand full, at all. It seems that it has degraded into a feudal style conflict where every deep black program director who has a measure of control in the larger equation is refusing to share data while trying to steal and acquire everyone else’s data, while trying to keep his/her sub programs hidden so they cannot be stolen. Alliances are made and broken. All high tech is just used to spy and steal from each other with the hope that whoever wins the “Deep Black race” will get to rewrite all the rules and make the world in their image. Because, quite simply, there will be NO ONE to stop them from doing so, with all the competition eliminated or left in the dust. My chain of command has expressed deep concern over what they feel is a scenario under which a certain percentage of the system has been compromised. This may be by undue influence from “unfriendly” ET’s, it may be in part due to an infectious mental illness that has swept through the upper classes who are so high on their on hubris they don’t see the very hard wall at the end of this very short road we are all approaching very quickly. A combination of both or possibly other variables are involved. Regardless, if the system is compromised by more than 51% or the gears grind down below 75% of normal, than conditions exist to set something in motion known to USMCss personnel as Article 21.(This is not the same as Agenda 21) Article 21, mandates all USMCss Officers in Service for Life (we retire when we die, literally) to take measures to prepare for conditions under Article 22. Let’s all hope we can solve it before that.
13. In your experiences did you ever witness any occult, black magic or ritual types of activities in connection with your MILAB or alien handlers at any time?
A: Not as a primary way of doing anything, but there seem to be residual memories of a few “strange” events in which occult symbolism or ritual was used. These memories are like the memories of medical procedures, which are fuzzy from heavy drugging. I can only assume it’s for a similar reason, that drugs were used to prevent subjects from recalling those events with any great accuracy.
14. Can you say anything about the code of ethics and behaviors concerning sexual relationships or even marriage within these “secret MILAB environments” during ones tour of duty? I’ve heard from numerous MILABs who recall having sexual encounters, often time rapes in these environments or even sexual liaisons being used as a tantric exercise in certain situations. Married MILABs in their outer, “normal life” may regularly have sexual relationships with other MILABs in these secret operation environments because they are twinned or bonded for specific reasons. What do you think the secret government knows about this and why do they have such sexual ethics? Or non ethics….
A: Knowing what I do about Tantric Physics, sexual energy, kundilini, as well as more bio-physiologically explained processes, I’ll say this: To enhance the mental abilities, psychic tools of test subjects, whether voluntary or not, rape accesses dark energy that some of the ET’s have taught the humans leading these deep black programs, how to manipulate. Again, I have to make a distinction between the program in which I was trained and others. When I was very young (4 or 5 years old) I was sexualized by my handlers to open up neural pathways and expand my psychic development. I wasn’t raped, but neither was it an act of free will on my part. Again, it was “with the grain” training, so as to attempt to make the process less traumatic and the subject (me in this case) should be more stable and less psychologically fragile. Drugging was also involved as this stage in an attempt to reduce mental and physical trauma. It’s a separate answer about the sexual behavior of personnel while I was in the MDF or EDF. It was very “open”. Closed sexual relationships would have created a lot more conflict and a lot more violence among the troops. We were forbidden from marrying, but that didn’t stop my wife and I. We wanted to get married so we’d be there for each other after death. It may sound strange, but given the environment we were in, it made us feel more secure about living in it if we had a strategy for dying there.
As far as why they have this ethic or lack thereof? They understand the tool and they use it. Like a hammer, used to hit a nail or hit someone in the head. It’s just a tool, how you use it defines the ethic or lack thereof. Compare to any other weapon technology. Men will use it to do what they can, ethics be damned, while others may have a deeper integrity and a counter philosophy in which the “how” is just as important as the “what” or “why”. Hence the cluster-fudge between deep black programs, approaching civil war. It’s very much split along the philosophy of ethics. The message of my superiors is simple, if you want to build a better super soldier, you have to stop making murder machines. They are inefficient and they can be turned against you. Traumatizing your subjects makes them weak at the core, fragile, and short lived. Compromise such a central tool, and the results could be nothing less than a hole big enough to drive an armada through.
15. Can you tell us about the unusual experiences you had while in the Navy, that you discovered in hindsight to be a type of mind controlled deception? (The church thing in San Diego and Camp Pendleton?)
A: That’s such a funny /effed up story, I’ll be glad to relate it. After Boot camp while I was at apprenticeship school, I would take long walks around the NTC (San Diego, CA). I would wander around the less populated areas of the base because I like to take quiet walks by myself. One evening I was walking near the North Gate and I saw two men walking toward me. Not another soul was to be seen, and they made a bee line for me. One, tall, Caucasian, late 30′s, civilian dress. The other, Philipino, late 30′s early 40′s, in Chiefs uniform (later claimed to be a master chief), he was ALWAYS wearing sunglasses, day or night and never unzipped his khaki jacket, so I could never see his name tag, or any other insignia on his uniform. The tall Caucasian, who claimed to be a “preacher” did all the talking. The Chief spoke maybe two sentences to me the entire time. The Preacher was always driving, except when we drove north toward Camp Pendleton, the Chief drove. They wanted to know if I wanted to go to church. Simply put, this meant a couple days or evenings a week I could get off base and out of extra duty. So I said “sure”. We visited the Preacher’s “church” twice. The first time we drove across town, to a neighborhood near Balboa Park. We turned down a street in which the houses on the left and right were all IDENTICAL. Walkways, doorways, windows on either side of the door. All is pastel colors. I could NOT have been able to come back and pick out which house was which. Very clever, I thought, on their part.
The first time, we walked in and I was treated to a small “church” setup in the tiny living room of this pastel cookie cutter bungalow. 6 wooden pews on either side. A white arch over the “stage”(3 inch raised platform) and two fake flower stands on either side. Looked like it all could have been rented from a wedding rental company. There were no posters or inspirational placards up on the wall. Which was odd, evangelical churches LOVE to put up propaganda on the walls, scriptures, inspirational quotes and imagery. The Preacher stood up front with his “wife” and the Chief sat in the back, arms crossed, jacket zipped up tight, sunglasses on, hat off. Silent the whole time. I sat on the left side of pews in the fifth row back. On the right side, second pew was a Caucasian man, early 40′s, balding, comb over, glasses, mustache, pear shaped, wearing an brownish orange polo shirt and walnut brown slacks with a leather belt, and loafers. He smiled, shook my hand once (weakly) and said “hello” and never spoke again. He sat with his eyes open, looking at his folded hands in his lap, most of the time. After that first time, I never saw him again.
In the pew in front of me and slightly to my left was an elderly couple “from the Midwest”. I only did a couple years of theatre in high school, but I learned a couple of things. That’s how to dress and do hair and make up for an audience. The man’s hair was perfect. In the back and in the front, as if it was done by a hairdresser. Not ONE hair was out of place on this guy’s head. His suit looked a style from the 40′s and it seemed to be a size too small for him, as if this was his Sunday suit for the last 30 years that he only wears on Sunday. Fine, but the fabric of the suit was less than a couple of years old, no matter how well maintained it was. Like it was pulled from the costume rack. The woman was wearing a blue dress with white polka dots, white gloves, black leather purse, blue hat and her hair in a bun. The dress looked like a size too big (again, like it was off the costume rack), and her hat looked a size too big, and after they said “hello” they both sat there, motionless and looking ahead or sitting with their eyes half closed. Everyone figits. Even if just a little, people figit in their seats. These two sat like statues, posing (white gloved hands on purse in lap, never moving.) Not a scratch, not a sneeze, not a cough, not a whisper, not a glance right or left. And they didn’t look average at all. They were both “good looking” and “symmetric” like professional actors. They were dressed and made up like actors, they sat like actors. I never saw them again after this one time. It really seems like they were there to make me feel “comfortable” and safe.
The second time I came back to their “church” it was just the Preacher, his “wife” the Chief and I. No one else was there or ever showed up again. The line they fed me about how they wander around the San Diego area trying to get sailors and marines to go to church was wearing thin, as I was always the ONLY sailor or marine present. Why just me? Why no one else? We were always getting warned about con artists or spies that might try and take advantage of us, but they never tried to get me to sign anything or give them any information, EVER. They just wanted me to come hang out with them.
The third time they wanted to take me up north to meet a colleague “preacher”. We drove up the Freeway north, and they had a freshly opened case of “Snapple” from Costco and kept asking if I was thirsty. I had a water with me, and said I was fine. My intuition was screaming at me, “don’t drink anything they offer you”, but I thought I was being paranoid and eventually took one. Soon after I started slipping down into the back seat, not unconscious, but feeling “drugged” and unable to physically move. We drove up to the North end of Camp Pendleton near the artillery range. The Chief got out of the car and had a key to the padlock on the gate. There was no gate guard. We drove out to the artillery range where there was TRB-3 style vehicle there to pick me up. The Preacher and the Chief got me out the car and handed me to two guys in flight suits who dragged me up the gangplank and into the ship. It’s a long story what happened after that, but afterward, they brought me back to the same spot and the Preacher and the Chief were there to pick me and take me back to base. I was late by ten minutes and almost got chewed out by the Duty Petty Officer, but when I showed him the business card of the Preacher and said I was “at church” he just grumbled “get in there, church boy, you’re late”.
16. How is your handler and superiors treating you now that you have decided to go public? Do they still want to use you in secret operations?
A: When I started the legal process to gain access to my personnel files, I felt like I had been abandoned by my superiors and I was prepared to do what I had to do to take care of myself. I was very clear with my congressman’s office I was trying to keep in compliance with my non-disclosure statements. I was willing to give them minimal information on where to look and how to ask for my personnel files. I also told his aide that I would debrief the congressman on what I knew, as I felt he had a constitutional “need to know”, regardless of compartmentalization. He declined, but they were friendly and helpful (to a point) to try and file the SF-180 and the privacy act release form to go to the various record keeping agencies and try and track them down. It was clear after about a year that I was at a dead end unless I could get legal representation (NO ONE has wanted to touch my case with a 10′ pole, all attempts to contact Daniel Sheehan on this matter have met with no response. I’m not putting blame on Daniel for this, just saying those are the facts. I’ve tried, none of my messages have gone through or been answered or whatever the reason. After listening to Linda Moulton Howe recently talk about how her attempt to contact a witness by phone and his to contact her by phone as well, was blocked by someone with access to the telecom system for a full five days before they finally got in touch with one another, both with the same question, “how come you didn’t call me or answer my calls?”, I just have to wonder sometimes.
To get back to your question, after two years, I was contacted by a former commanding officer. Col. Jamieson. We argued, I yelled and called him names, told him I felt betrayed and that if he expected ANY co-operation from me of ANY kind, he better have a damn good reason and have some answers as to the issues of my benefits, my awards and ribbons, and my credentials and my credibility by getting access to my personnel files. I was satisfied with the de-briefing he gave me, and after some heated back and forth, we came to an agreement I felt had been achieved through genuine and effective diplomacy. When I had agreed to listen to my orders, while reserving the right to refuse any and all orders that might violate my officer’s oath or any moral or ethical standards that I thought should take priority. Essentially I’d refused to be anybody’s dog, but I’d be willing to consider mutual interest if the reasoning was convincing enough for me. He put me in touch with a man identifying himself as Brigadier General Smythe. General Smythe gave me a fairly long winded explanation about the “soulless pricks” on “the committee” that he was supposed to answer to and the serious disagreements by USMCss brass with said committee. Without elaborating, I was satisfied with his explanation of the situation on his end, and when he personally gave me the go ahead (he said, and the quotes are his words “I’m giving you the go ahead to go public with everything you know.”) when I said, “Everything?” he said, “EVERYTHING!” and we had a deal. As long as I had the assurance that my direct chain of command was behind me and that I had “no restrictions” on truthful content, I knew it was for real and that he was for real. No one, not even an enemy would want me to do that or tell me to do that. He even said I could use his name, which I just did, to let the people who need to know, that I answer to him, and to him only, and if they don’t like it, they can take it up with him, or the CMC. Let me be perfectly clear about this, I do NOT answer to anyone outside of my chain of command. If they’re outside of my chain of command, I don’t answer to them, period.
17. Did you ever feel a noticeable difference being on another planetary body, where you were no longer in connection with the “earth” energy? Were your dreams different while stationed on Mars base? Was telepathy easier in these places?
A: That’s a great question and a big YES. Being on Mars, one is definitely connected to the planetary energy of Mars. I won’t paint it two dimensional with something like “being more war like”, give me a break, the level of violence burning through humans on planet Earth because of the intense Gaia energy is VERY war like. It’s a more complex and subtle system of differences. Suffice it to say that there is no question on another world that you are no longer on Earth. Dreaming is a mix. Because we’re so close to hundreds of other terrestrial Earthlings, we collectively dream together (like we do here on Earth) but also blend into the collective unconscious of Mars and the terrestrial Martians. If we ever talked about it (which we did from time to time) if one spoke of having one of those “weird Mars dreams”, you knew what they meant. We’d all had them at one time or another. Telepathy is a trickier question since we were equipped with a special implant just for “radioless” communication. Not sure how to gauge “natural telepathy” on another world, since we had augmented implants for augmented telepathy.
18. Did you and your team mates on the Mars Defense Force ever pray together and did you experience a spiritual support system or connection with “Source” while there?
A: We were prohibited from any overt practice of any kind. Some of us would practice a “death ritual” before going into battle. It was something that was passed around the troops, and command turned a blind eye as long as it wasn’t made into a “big deal”. It was something we would do as a squad, and some other squads would do the same thing, in their barracks before combat. It went a little something like this.
“We are dead. Our lives our forfeit. Today our souls are committed to eternity. We go into to battle to reclaim our lives and prove our worthiness to live in our bodies. We are dead. There is no fear of death today, no fear of pain, no fear of loss, for we are already dead, and the dead do not fear. If we are found worthy, we will return with the trophies of our souls, ours to give, ours to live.”
I suppose that’s some kind of ritual to connect ourselves to some kind of source. We didn’t think of it that way, but I suppose in retrospect, it qualifies.
19. And did Mars or the Moon in your opinion have a spiritual presence like Earth has Gaia/Sophia?
A: Mars definitely has its own spiritual presence. The natives call it Gaa’Lu’Ka or She’Na. It has a female personality to them. We often think of Mars as this masculine god of war figure, but to the natives, She is definitely a She. More like a Kali-ma figure. Very warrior like, but definitely female.
Luna (Earth’s moon) is a bit trickier. Luna is very close to Gaia, so you can still feel the influence of Earth there. I didn’t spend enough time there to really comment on Luna’s personal spiritual center, but she has a consciousness, that’s certain.
20. When they shipped in supplies like food, did you know what ports or stargates they sent these supplies from? I imagine they needed fresh fruit and vegetables from Earth. did they grow anything there on the base like hydroponics?
A: Everything was very compartmentalized. I couldn’t tell you about where they grew the food, where it all came from. My best guess (from all available data) is that some was grown locally (where, I can’t say for certain) and some was traded or brought in from elsewhere. We would get strawberry ice cream and strawberry pie, that the cooks swore didn’t have a single strawberry in it, but some other non-terrestrial fruit. They weren’t supposed to talk about it, but hinted at it often enough, I consider it confessional.
21. I know we mentioned a little about the sexuality issue, since it was mostly men and they wanted to “reduce violence” or competitiveness with available women, etc. Did they ever regularly rape the women there? Reason I’m asking is that this is a common report for female Milabs and MK ultra mind-controlled slaves. They are often used for sexual servicing among other things, and especially occult weaponry tactics. Did the Mars Base bring in prostitutes or women for the men to be serviced while you were there?
A: That’s a great point. How command, intelligence and HQ at the MCC (Mars Colony Corporation) conducted themselves regarding these issues might give some insight into the general attitude towards women or their own sexual behaviors and appetites. Since I know next to nothing about the conduct of these personnel, I can’t really say. For us, the troops on the ground, morale was way too important, and troop cohesiveness too important to put female soldiers in such a victimizing position. On the Nautilus, again, not being privy to the command section or the engineering section, I can’t say what was taking place there, but troop morale was a priority. I was involved in a relationship with a younger female officer/pilot that wasn’t abusive, but was pretty manipulative and unkind on my part. When word got up to the Old Man, I was punished severely and it was made very clear that treating my female comrades with anything less than equal respect would be met with harsher and harsher consequences until the behavior stopped. I didn’t need to be told twice.
The behavior you’re talking about, female soldiers being raped to ramp up their kundalini energy, is used a lot in the psychic spying/remote viewing programs. This would be an intelligence dept issue, primarily. I can’t comment, since I never worked in that area of intel. I certainly think this human rights issue is one of the most important issues surrounding the use and treatment of super soldiers and remote viewers. My earlier training would have more of those types of episodes than my deployment. Yet again, because Project Moonshadow was a different type of program, attempting to lessen the traumatic events it takes to create a soldier from front to back. I can only comment on what I know, and can’t comment on departments and divisions working in secret and totally separate from my duties.
22. Were you ever instructed not to utter the word of “Jesus Christ” on any of these bases? (I’ve heard it said that in some underground bases below a certain level on the Earth they are not allowed to speak this name.
A: Again, we were prohibited from any overt religious or spiritual practice. I can certainly recall “Jesus Christ” being uttered plenty of times, but as a exclamation. Par example, “Jesus Christ, did you see the size of that thing?”
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A gifted Hyperspace Intuitive, Stewart A. Swerdlow moves his consciousness beyond time and space to determine your foundational mind-pattern upon which all your life experiences are based. His great-uncle, Yakov Sverdlov, was the first president of the Soviet Union, and his grandfather helped form the Communist Party in the United States in the 1930s. To ensure that his loyalties stayed with the US government, he was “recruited” for specific government mind-control experiments, including 13 years at the Montauk Project, which enhanced his natural abilities.
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Kerry Cassidy In 2006 Kerry ran across Bill Ryan, a dude with a nice line in broad-brimmed hats, and they shacked up for a while at the Camelot Castle Hotel in Tintagel. Project Camelot grew out of their post-coital conversations, conceived as an open-ended series of video interviews with woo-doctors and whistleblowers.
In 2006 Kerry ran across Bill Ryan, a dude with a nice line in broad-brimmed hats, and they shacked up for a while at the Camelot Castle Hotel in Tintagel. Project Camelot grew out of their post-coital conversations, conceived as an open-ended series of video interviews with woo-doctors and whistleblowers.
In 2006 Kerry ran across Bill Ryan, a dude with a nice line in broad-brimmed hats, and they shacked up for a while at the Camelot Castle Hotel in Tintagel. Project Camelot grew out of their post-coital conversations, conceived as an open-ended series of video interviews with woo-doctors and whistleblowers.
Kerry Cassidy In 2006 Kerry ran across Bill Ryan, a dude with a nice line in broad-brimmed hats, and they shacked up for a while at the Camelot Castle Hotel in Tintagel. Project Camelot grew out of their post-coital conversations, conceived as an open-ended series of video interviews with woo-doctors and whistleblowers.
In 2006 Kerry ran across Bill Ryan, a dude with a nice line in broad-brimmed hats, and they shacked up for a while at the Camelot Castle Hotel in Tintagel. Project Camelot grew out of their post-coital conversations, conceived as an open-ended series of video interviews with woo-doctors and whistleblowers.
In 2006 Kerry ran across Bill Ryan, a dude with a nice line in broad-brimmed hats, and they shacked up for a while at the Camelot Castle Hotel in Tintagel. Project Camelot grew out of their post-coital conversations, conceived as an open-ended series of video interviews with woo-doctors and whistleblowers.
Gary McKinnon (born 10 February 1966) is a Scottish systems administrator and hacker who was accused in 2002 of perpetrating the “biggest military computer hack of all time,”[2] although McKinnon himself – who has a diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome – states that he was merely looking for evidence of free energy suppression and a cover-up of UFO activity and other technologies potentially useful to the publi Scottish systems administrator and hacker who was accused in 2002 of perpetrating the “biggest military computer hack of all time,”[2] although McKinnon himself – who has a diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome – states that he was merely looking for evidence of free energy suppression and a cover-up of UFO activity and other technologies potentially useful to the publi Scottish systems administrator and hacker who was accused in 2002 of perpetrating the “biggest military computer hack of all time,”[2] although McKinnon himself – who has a diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome – states that he was merely looking for evidence of free energy suppression and a cover-up of UFO activity and other technologies potentially useful to the public.Gary McKinnon (born 10 February 1966) is a Scottish systems administrator and hacker who was accused in 2002 of perpetrating the “biggest military computer hack of all time,”[2] although McKinnon himself – who has a diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome – states that he was merely looking for evidence of free energy suppression and a cover-up of UFO activity and other technologies potentially useful to the publi Scottish systems administrator and hacker who was accused in 2002 of perpetrating the “biggest military computer hack of all time,”[2] although McKinnon himself – who has a diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome – states that he was merely looking for evidence of free energy suppression and a cover-up of UFO activity and other technologies potentially useful to the publi Scottish systems administrator and hacker who was accused in 2002 of perpetrating the “biggest military computer hack of all time,”[2] although McKinnon himself – who has a diagnosis of Asperger’s Syndrome – states that he was merely looking for evidence of free energy suppression and a cover-up of UFO activity and other technologies potentially useful to the public.
Edgar Dean “Ed” Mitchell, Sc.D., is an American retired naval officer and aviator, test pilot, aeronautical engineer, and NASA astronaut who”walked on the moon” and says aliens have visited earth many times.
Alfred Lambremont Webre is an American author, lawyer, futurist, peace activist, environmental activist, and a space activist who promotes the ban of space weapons.
Ben Rich, the “Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber” and former head of Lockheed Skunk Works,had once let out information about Extraterrestrial UFO Visitors Are Real. He states “we’ve” been to the stars” and “have the technology to go to the stars”, however, put in context–as many insiders believe–we’ve been taken to other planets by means of extraterrestrial ships due to radiation belt, so while we have the technology to go, we have to be “taken due to radiation belt and our bodies would not handle it–i.e.–why some have proposed we ride along [?] … are taken [?]
In films that present humans alongside alien counterparts, we inevitably learn more about our own humanity than of the alien creature’s new perceptions. When we visit a new country far from home, we make just as many (if not more) discoveries about ourselves as we do about our host nation – as any traveler can attest, looking at our own culture from a distance allows for a better understanding of both its strengths and frailties, and opens it up to a greater dialogue about the world at large.
In 1977, the Voyager 2 probe was sent into space with a recorded message of peace (in 55 different languages) along with an eclectic collection of music and 116 images of life on this planet. John Carpenter, in his 1984 film Starman, explores what might have happened if an alien ship were to encounter this Earthling greeting. Alongside a sweet romance between the two lead characters, there is the story of how American government officials react to the appearance of the “Starman.” A socially-conscious piece of sci-fi, the naive and otherworldly Starman reveals both the government’s uneasiness with extraterrestrials (despite spending trillions on defense yearly) and the public’s split perspectives concerning the existence of real alien beings.
Many UFOlogical scenarios begin with a cataclysmic encounter that destroys the planet. Aliens are often depicted as a race evolutionarily superior to our own, with apocalyptic powers that can be used to levitate objects, save lives, start cars – different remarkable skills for different alien life forms. For years, comics, books, television shows and films have drawn people to the world of UFOs and extraterrestrial activities. In the 1940s and 50s, freakish events – the end of the Second World War, the unforgettable image of the atom bomb’s mushroom cloud and a pervasive storm of anticommunist sentiment – inspired the creation of a slew of sci-fi masterpieces. The Roswell Crash happened in 1947, only two years after the atomic bomb was dropped on Japanese citizens. These early B-movies put the nation’s fears of invasion and destruction on film. The reality of an alien invasion, after the paranoia and chaos of the era, did not seem so outside the realm of possibility.
The “mysterious” nature of aliens, and their continued unconfirmed legitimacy by the U.S. government only adds to their appeal. While many prominent scientists have attested to the likelihood of their existence, the proof of alien abductions and landings has been largely discredited. Carl Sagan, in one of his last interviews, said that extraterrestrial intelligence is a “wonderful prospect, but requires the most severe and rigorous standards of evidence.”
For most UFO enthusiasts, theories about advanced civilizations on other planets are a matter of sheer speculation, with little consideration for standards of scientific conjecture. That said, it is difficult to consider extraterrestrial life in terms of our own. Different types of thinking are needed to properly consider a race of beings capable of journeying among the stars – we need to be mentally flexible, as these beings are truly alien and, in all likelihood, of an appearance that our eyes will be completely untrained to see.
What reasons could there be to hide evidence of aliens? Since the Roswell, New Mexico incident, many believe that there are sweeping security measures and secrecy in place to keep the subject under wraps. But the public is not convinced. According to two National Geographic polls held in 2012, 36 percent of Americans believe UFO’s exist, and 79 percent believe a government coverup is responsible for withholding detailed alien information.
This past summer, microbiologists in California discovered bacteria that survive, not by eating “food” as we commonly think of it, but by feeding on electricity. NASA has theorized that beings in the “dark energy biosphere”, beneath deep sea beds, consume so little energy that their “means of living could theoretically be used by extraterrestrial life living in other areas of the solar system, or universe.” Both of these findings prove that limiting space exploration to “Earth-like” planets will limit our discovery of other living beings. If we are modeling our assumptions as to what an alien life needs on our own, isn’t that missing the entire point? Who knows what kind of conditions another life form needs to thrive? Astronomers from the government-backed SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) have recently conceded that the chance of discovering life on other planets is inevitable and will likely occur within the next 20 years.
If there are beings capable of harnessing pure energy, they may take the form of these electron-feasting bacteria. Certain species are also capable of producing electrons while metabolizing chemicals, leading scientists to believe that they may be an eventual source of natural energy.
Today, with energy prices skyrocketing, the environment in crisis mode, and no clear solution in sight, it could make sense toinvest in projects towards this end. While we haven’t yet been visited by other forms of life, by harnessing pure energy we may edge closer to a new kind of sustainability. Canadian science fiction writer Karl Schroeder has posited that “any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from nature” (borrowing from Arthur C. Clarke’s original, “any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”). Aliens may blend seamlessly into the galaxy, their artificial systems no different from our natural ones. In Carpenter’s film, after finding the welcome messages from Voyager, the Starman heads to Earth – only to discover the hostility of American military men when he is shot down by the U.S. Air Force. But when Starman was released, we were living in a different time. There are hundreds of millions of galaxies in space, and within them millions and millions of stars. If even 1/100 of them contain “life” in any definition, that is still billions of planets with extraterrestrial beings. It’s time we found comfort, rather than fear, in the fact that we are not alone. And even if there aren’t others out there in space, the principle of coexisting peacefully can be applied equally back here on Earth
IN WHAT WILL SOON BE CONSIDERED AS THE HOLY GRAIL OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL RESEARCH, THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT HAS RELEASED ANCIENT DOCUMENTS PROVING THE EXISTENCE OF E.T.’S ONCE AND FOR ALL
CALAKMUL, MEXICO (INTELLIHUB) — Newly released Mayan documents, i.e. artifacts, dating back at least 1300-years reveal that the human race is not alone and highly advanced technologies including space travel have likely existed for quite some time.
Not only does this documentation released by the Mexican government show the existence of an explorer race, it may also reveal the roots of mankind.
Some consider the government’s presentation of the information to be a major step forward for humanity as the truth is finally being slowly let out. Hopefully this will prompt other governments around the world to be more forthcoming with such information, turning the tide in the UFO and extraterrestrial research community for good.
Sundance winner Juan Carlos Rulfo’s Revelations of the Mayans 2012 and Beyond also touches on such technology. “Producer Raul Julia-Levy said the documentary-makers were working in cooperation with the Mexican government for what he said was “the good of mankind”. He said the order to collaborate had come directly from the country’s president, Álvaro Colom Caballeros.
“Mexico will release codices, artifacts and significant documents with evidence of Mayan and extraterrestrial contact, and all of their information will be corroborated by archaeologists,” he said. “The Mexican government is not making this statement on their own – everything we say, we’re going to back it up.”
Caballeros himself was conspicuous by his absence from the statement released by Julia-Levy. So far, the minister of tourism for the Mexican state of Campeche, Luis Augusto García Rosado, appears to be the highest-ranking government official to go on record confirming the discovery of extraterrestrial life, but he’s not holding back.
In a statement, Rosado spoke of contact “between the Mayans and extraterrestrials, supported by translations of certain codices, which the government has kept secure in underground vaults for some time”. In a telephone conversation with the Wrap, he also spoke of “landing pads in the jungle that are 3,000 years old”.[2]
These secrets have been said to be “protected” by the mexican government for as long as 80-years.
Sources:
[1] The Mexican government reveals Mayan documents proving extraterrestrial contacts – Arcturius.org
[2] Mayan documentary to show ‘evidence’ of alien contact in ancient Mexico – TheGuardian.com
[3] Aliens and UFOs Depicted In Mayan Artifacts Released By Mexican Government – ConciusLifeNews.com
Nick Redfern takes us on a dark journey with his new book ‘The World’s Weirdest Places’. Make sure you bring your camping gear and you might wanna consider an automatic rifle. And of course don’t forget your paranormal what nots for this expedition of the weird. The book is filled with great stories just in time for Halloween. A pleasure to get to sit down with Nick Redfern again on Examiner and get him as our personal guide for this walk about of the weird. I hope you enjoy it.
1. So Nick we meet again, telepathic high five! What was your motivation behind writing your new book The World’s Weirdest Places?
NR: Actually, it was the idea of the publisher, New Page Books. They had done two previous books of a similar nature: The World’s Creepiest Places and The Worlds Most Haunted Places. And they asked me if I’d be interested in doing the next one. I said “sure,” and it went from there. The book is basically a study of my favorite, 25 weird places in the world, including Mt. Shasta, California; Reykjavik, Iceland; Halifax, Canada; and the Berwyn Mountains, Wales. UFOs, strange beasts, ghosts, paranormal phenomena and much more appear in most of the places. 2. Okay lets get to the vampires and the weird place that they live. What location are some vampires hiding out at lore wise?
NR: As I note in the book, the ancient Romans and Greeks lived in deathly terror of the vampire-like Striges, and Norse mythology tells of the horrific Draugr. Madagascar is home to the rampaging Ramanga. And the Tagalog haunts the jungles of the Philippines. While certain characteristics and traits may change according to region and century, all of the above entities have one thing in common: they are supernatural creatures, sometimes – but not exclusively – the dead returned from the grave, and all driven by a voracious and violent need to feed on copious amounts of human blood. I also talk about the Morana of the Caucasus Mountains – which also happens to be the very same title applied to a blood-sucking monstrosity that haunts the Dalmatian area of Croatia. For the people of the little towns of the mountains, the Morana exclusively appears in the guise of a beautiful maiden. She is not an example of the dead returned, however. No: the she is actually an it; nothing less than a supernatural shape-shifter whose real form is definitively devilish.
3. Werewolves oh my! How about the werewolves what vacation spot are they inhabiting these days in our weird world?
NR: I have a particular interest in werewolf stories, and in 2007 there was a spate of sightings at a cemetery in the woods of England’s Cannock Chase, situated only about a 15-minute drive from where I grew up. It all began in April 2007, when a local, well respected group of paranormal investigators – the West Midlands Ghost Club – traveled out to the area to investigate newly-surfaced reports of what witnesses described as a large, hairy creature very much resembling a wolf. But, there was something extremely weird about this particular wolf: as well as walking like any normal wolf might, this one had the amazing and uncanny ability to rear up onto its hind limbs, which it invariably did when anyone had the distinct misfortune to cross its malevolent path. One of those whose encounter caught the attention of the club was a mailman who was riding past the cemetery on a motorbike when he became spellbound by the sight of what, at first, he assumed was a large, wild wolf on the loose. This would be extraordinary enough in itself, as the wild wolf is generally acknowledged as having become extinct in the British Isles centuries ago. That the creature was no mere normal wolf, however, became very obvious to the shocked man when it caught his eye, raised itself upwards on its back legs, and bounded away into the countless trees that envelop the cemetery.
4. Which weird place in our world gave you the creeps the most when you were writing this book?
NR: To be honest, I don’t get the creeps. I find all these spooky and weird places very fascinating, but they don’t scare me or intimidate me. I just find it all very interesting. But, aside from a few investigations in my life, I’ve never really felt creeped out at all. Full of adrenalin, yes! But not scared.
5. What can you share with us about Devil’s Gate Dam in California and Jack Parsons?
NR: Stroll along the top of the dam – which is situated in Pasadena, California – for a couple of hundred yards and you will come to a steep, circling and dusty pathway. It is a pathway that, if you dare to follow it, will take you down deep into the heart of mysterious woods, thick and mighty old trees, and winding streams, all of which are overlooked by large, brooding hills. Both dark shadows and deep malignancy dominate this near-hidden area, which is part-natural wildness and part-secluded oasis. Jack Parsons was both an occultist and brilliant rocket-scientist who was a devotee of Aleister Crowley who operated out of that area and, without who, it’s unlikely NASA would exist in the way it does today. But, there have also been a great deal of suicides in the area, murders, and sightings of weird beasts, including a gargoyle-like creature a few years ago.
6. I recently had a winged creature sighting that was strange while riding in the back of a truck in Florida with a witness. Large black wings and then it vanished right before our eyes. What are some winged beasties out there in particular locations you could tell us about? This had been my first paranormal experience in over a year as well and has given me the freaks ever since.
NR: One of the strangest of all is a case from the Vietnam War. It was a calm and muggy summer’s night, only four months before the dawning of the 1970s, and Earl Morrison, who was a private attached to the U.S. Marine Corps at the time in question, was stationed in Vietnam, sitting and chatting with two friends and colleagues atop a bunker situated near to Da Nang, a port city which can be found on the coast of the South China Sea, at the mouth of the Han River. For reasons that Morrison and his friends were never really able to make clear sense of, they all turned their attentions skywards, near-simultaneously, and, to their total astonishment and unmitigated horror, saw a strange and terrifying figure crossing the vast expanse of the evening sky. And, worse still, it was slowly coming right towards them: “We saw what looked like wings, like a bat’s; only it was gigantic compared to what a regular bat would be. After it got close enough so we could see what it was, it looked like a woman, a naked woman.” That has to be one of the strangest of all! But, all around the world there are tales and legends of winged monsters: The United States’ Mothman, the Owlman of England, gargoyles, harpies, etc.
7. Ok the New York City subway story interests me most assuredly what kinda critters are running around down there?
NR: A late-night trip on the New York City Subway, which opened its doors to the world in 1904 and is now home to 842 miles of track and 468 stations, might not be the safest of excursions at the very best of times. But, we’re not talking here about muggers and murderers. No, there are far more dangerous things said to be lurking in those old tunnels, sewer-systems, and platforms that wind and coil their collective way deep beneath the Big Apple. One of the most persistent stories concerning the New York City Subway System is that it is home to a largely hidden population of giant alligators that feast on the hobos, the homeless, the late-night travelers, and just about anyone else that has the misfortune to get in their monstrous and marauding way. Yes, just above everyone knows, and loves, the engaging stories, but most are content to write off such tales as simply friend of a friend yarns and modern day folklore. But, maybe they shouldn’t! There’s also a story of the ghost of a Confederate, Civil War-era soldier being seen on the subway in the 1930s. No idea why though!
8. Taushida, Guyana is said to be a real life Jurassic Park of sorts filled with all sorts of weird beings like lake monsters and hairy ape men. Sounds pre historic with the recent discussion about dinosaurs from scientists living on other planets who may not have ever gone extinct and evolved into possibly advanced beings all this dinosaur stuff interests me more and more lately because it makes sense to me. What can you share?
NR: Guyana is a sovereign state on the northern coast of South America and borders a large percentage of the Caribbean Sea. And for adventurers and thrill seekers in search of a solid amount of undeniable mystery and mayhem, look no further than this captivating and enigma-filled land. The mountainous areas that surround the little village of Taushida, Guyana are defined by their beauty, dense jungles, waterfalls, deep caves, luscious foliage and widely varied wildlife. But, they are also defined by their profound strangeness and menace, too. And for such a small place, the sheer level of downright bizarreness attached to Taushida is extraordinary. An ancient tiger-like animal that is said to have the uncanny ability to live in, and even under, the water of the many rivers of the area is spoken of in whispered, worried tones. The locals claim that their very own equivalent of Bigfoot – the Didi, as it is known – inhabits the nearby hills. And giant snakes – anacondas, many say – of an incredible forty to fifty feet in length, and with bodies the widths of oil-drums, coil and slither their terrible way around the land in search of a tasty human or several to satisfy their voracious appetites.
9. My next phase of life is writing a book about my paranormal experiences and perspectives and I also love the horror genre of fiction. I write my butt off but I just need to get into the book frame of mind. So I am trying to balance out Examiner and all my radio show content site work with this new project. Any advice for upcoming writers and what is next on ye ole plate of doom and glee book wise if you can share anything? Thanks Nick always a dark pleasure!
NR: My advice for writers is to treat what you do as a job. Yes, you have to be passionate about it all, as I certainly am. But, if you want to be a successful writer you have to be diligent and focused. Like any self-employed job, you have to plan ahead, keep getting work, pitch ideas to publishers, magazines, newspapers, get the word out, get on the lecture-circuit, radio, TV etc. Get to know the players on the scene. It’s no good sitting around like some idiot waiting for the phone to ring. You have to constantly push and promote yourself, come up with new ideas and themes for articles and books, and keep investigating. Also like any self-employed job, the effort you put in will have an effect on the end result.
So, any upcoming writer – if their heart is really in it, and for the right reasons – should be prepared to put in a lot of effort, 24/7, but the results will be worth it. And self-belief and self-confidence are vital, too. Also, be true to yourself. Write what you want to write about, but don’t ever kiss-ass to try and get “in” with the right people. No-one will respect a writer for that. I certainly wouldn’t. I might give them a good kicking though, to knock some sense into them. As for what I’m up to: a couple more cryptozoology books on the horizon, and maybe a UFO book. As long as I have that enthusiasm and can keep putting out new material that I hope the fans will like, then I’ll keep on doing it. The day it feels like a rock band just playing its old hits just for the sake of it, is the day I’ll do something else. But, I don’t think that will happen if I’m careful about the projects I take on and make sure I keep adding something new, new insights, new data, new theories etc.
Nick Redfern is an author, lecturer, and journalist who writes about a wide range of unsolved mysteries, including Bigfoot, UFOs, the Loch Ness monster, alien encounters, and government conspiracies. His previous books include The Pyramids and the Pentagon; Keep Out!; The Real Men in Black; The NASA Conspiracies; Contactees; and Memoirs of a Monster Hunter, all published by New Page Books. He writes for many publications, including UFO Magazine, Fate, and Fortean Times, and has appeared on numerous television shows, including the History Channel’s Ancient Aliens,Monster Quest, and UFO Hunters; National Geographic Channel’s The Truth about UFOs, and Paranatural; and SyFy Channel’s Proof Positive. He can be contacted at nickredfernsbooks.blogspot.com
Note: the following report was written to accompany White Hat Report #48 which has as of this date been delayed and may possibly never see the light of day due to either quiet coercion behind the scenes or outright threats to the life of certain members of the group known as “The White Hats” who publish reports on a fairly regular basis revealing financial corruption at the highest levels of government specifically in the U.S. but also involving other world powers and players. I have therefore decided to release my portion of the report without #48 so that the truth may at least be told with regard to what lies behind that report. For more information about #48 please see the following transcript and audio from my recent radio show conversation with “Tman of the White Hats” concerning this report.
Project Camelot and many other individuals and researchers have been investigating the range and depth of this vast conspiracy underground, beneath the perception of the masses i.e. the reality beneath the Matrix for many years. As most readers will know, the concept of the Matrix (the surface fabrication of our reality) is known and was popularized by the movie of the same name. This, now, is common knowledge. Taking the red pill or the blue pill is ultimately what you do when you read this report or should you decide you aren’t interested in waking up to the reality of what is going on under your feet (literally) and prefer to go back to sleep. So this is the choice you have.
The Secret Space Program
The trail of the Octopus, also known as the Shadow Government can be detected by following the money. PUREHEART INVESTMENTS is the top tier of a network of front companies and trading programs that result in vast sums of money being earned. Money earned on money. The White Hats have followed the money and that rabbit hole ultimately leads to BLACK PROJECTS. Black Projects are called “black” because they are hidden, that is, in the dark. These projects are part of a clandestine network run by the Shadow Government also known as The Secret Space Program.
As a recent Project Camelot witness, physicist and author, Richard Alan Miller, said so succinctly to the audience at his latest workshop, “There are two human civilizations on Earth. One that has space travel and one that does not.” The ones that do, are part of a vast network going off-world and into Space called for simplicity’s sake “the secret space program”.
Rhodes scholar finalist and historian Rich Dolan calls this a “rogue civilization” and in fact that is exactly what it is, what it has become. Regardless of how it started out. In Volume II of his highly regarded and substantial history UFOs AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE, Rich writes, …”Six decades of classified expenditures (and other forms of secret spending) have provided ample resources to apply principles and technologies that have remained sealed off from the rest of humanity. This development alone is enough to justify the greatest secrecy.
What has become evident is that The Secret or Shadow Government established the Secret Space Program and Black Projects by virtue of having access primarily to two important advantages, backed by the might of the military industrial complex: money and ET technology.
A Word About the History of ET Technology Acquisition
It is known that Tesla was himself, was aware that he was ‘in contact’ with an unknown race of off-planet beings who downloaded to him the key concepts behind certain technology. In describing the history of our interaction with off-world (and inter/intra dimensional races and the acquisition of special technologies, you can, for example, go back to the days of Eisenhower and his famed meeting with at least 2 groups of ETs (Greys and Nordics) at Muroch Air Force Base (now known as Edwards Air Force Base). However, that is just one of many places to start. From all indications, …”we are not alone and we have never been alone”, to quote Command Sergeant Robert O. Dean, a whistleblower who violated his security oath in order to inform the people regarding the truth behind the reality of ET visitation.
Another logical place (well documented by scholars and researchers such as Jim Marrs (THE FOURTH REICH) and Joseph Farrell, (author of SAUCERS, SWASTIKAS AND PSYOPS: A History of A Breakaway Civilization: Hidden Aerospace Technologies and Psychological Operations), is to go back to the days of the Nazis and the establishment of the German high command. They made contact with a race of ETs through the Vril Society (a small group of women who were “channeling”). The Nazis are also said to have conducted careful research into the flying saucers of India called Vimanas (chronicled in the great writings such as the Upanishads etc). They are also known to have confiscated and horded hidden archeological records and relics of inestimable value for scientific study… Because of this, Nazis made huge leaps forward into technologies involving space and time travel. (see the Nazi Bell and Camelot interview with Igor Witkowsky).
The Fourth Reich
The preface to Jim Marr’s book, THE FOURTH REICH states, …”At the end of World War II, ranking Nazis, along with their young and fanatical protégés, used the loot of Europe to create corporate front companies in many countries, worming their way into corporate America. They brought with them miraculous weapons technology that helped win the space race. But they also brought their Nazi philosophy based on the authoritarian premise that the end justifies the means—including unprovoked wars of aggression and curtailment of individual liberties—which has since gained an iron hold in the “land of the free.”
From the advent of Project Paperclip at the end of WWII Nazi scientists, engineers and military officers were repatriated to at least 3 countries: United States, Russia and Argentina (and very possibly others) the takeover and infiltration of our government began. With those former Nazi scientists and military officers came the access to new technologies that aided in the creation of a new American Space Program, which, as a result, was many jumps ahead of the rest of the world. According to Camelot witnesses the secret space program now contains technology possibly as much as 10,000 years in advance of the public sector.
Rule by secrecy was already well in affect as evidenced by the creation of an organization known as MJ-12 under the Truman administration. According to the original MJ-12 documents… “the Majestic 12 (Majic 12) group … was established by secret executive order of President Truman on 24 September,1947, upon recommendation by Dr. Vannevar Bush and Secretary [of Defense] James Forrestal.” [for more info see the Wikipedia link here].
It is also worth mentioning the famous statement by Eisenhower who felt it necessary to warn America when leaving office. He said, “In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”… see LINK to watch the complete speech on video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
Needless to say this warning went unheeded.
From then on, we have witnessed the growth and manifestation, in secret, behind closed doors and within the halls of Government,, of a cancer so pervasive that at this time it will be a massive challenge to eliminate, let alone describe it in all its aspects so that it can be dismantled and/or redirected to serve the people rather than control and use them for its own purpose.
Once the roots and origin of this “octopus” or cancer and the strangle hold over our government (and arguably the governments of the world) is exposed, then figuring out how to deal with it becomes the real challenge. This is where this latest White Hats Report is leading us. The evidence is on the table… What you do with it is up to yo
The Why Behind Black Projects
Although it is crucial to describe the emergence and history behind the creation of this rogue civilization with Space Travel also known as the Secret Government or Secret Space Program, it has already been covered by many authors over the years and comprises scholarship far surpassing the limits of this report. The reader is encouraged to follow that part of the trail (a partial list of videos and source material is listed at the bottom of this report). However, for the purposes of this report, we will concentrate on the WHY.
Asking why the Secret Space Program was created and continues to be SECRET also has its place. And the answer has also been addressed over the years in books by various authors who outline the state of the U.S. government leading up to and after WWII and why they came to the conclusion that RULE BY SECRECY was the preferred method of control by this group. (see Rich Dolan’s volumes, UFOS AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY STATE VOLUMES I & II for more on this…) Suffice to say, that we are talking about a group or a government that even prior to WWII was fully invested in the Nazi philosophy and lineage to the extent that there is plenty of evidence (see Jim Marrs, Joseph Farrell and more) that the Nazis and rise of Hitler was funded at least in part by the Bush family.
What has become clear is that the structure of the U.S. government became infiltrated at every level even prior to WWII as the Bush family members and specifically Bush Sr. rose to positions of power, first as head of the CIA and then as President. This “cabal” has coalesced into what is now commonly known as the “Bush Cabal”.
The rise of the Bush Cabal and the infiltration and takeover of the U.S. military industrial complex by the Nazis is again well documented. The Shadow or Secret Government has grown in leaps and bounds since WWII whose primary raison d’être became the Secret Space Program. This program involved Black Projects that used newly invented and acquired technologies with the help of various treaties and relationships over time with various ET races, both on and off planet “races” of beings. This is the world we will attempt to describe: the world of BLACK PROJECTS, why PUREHEART was created and ultimately where the money funneled through PUREHEART goes…
In essence, it would appear, funding this breakaway society or civilization has become the primary preoccupation of the rulers, specifically in America, headed by the Bush Cabal. This, as we shall see, is of great importance to you the reader, as well as to those who “serve” this Cabal.
AGENDA behind the Black Projects
This is a short list of what this rogue civilization or program wants to achieve:
1. Control and rule by secrecy of the United States and ultimately the world.
2. Control and rule of the Solar System and beyond. This includes the terraforming of planets including moons, for example of Jupiter and Saturn. As well as the established bases on the moon and Mars, the Command and Control center in Phobos and the emergence of Solar Warden, the interstellar space fleet already fully operational. This includes non-terrestrial officers and fleet-to-fleet transfers of equipment and troops. (see Gary McKinnon Camelot interview for more on this).
3. The creation of a “Master Race” or Humanity 2.0 that will then go on to rule planets and travel the stars. This involves, nanotech, bioluminescence, robotic implants and a host of other technologies… all aimed at creating the Ultimate “superman”.
4. The domination over other space faring civilizations or at the very least the capability to be a “force to be reckoned with” regardless of the level of development of friend or foe whether encountered ‘out there’ or visiting our Earth. Including those that inhabit inner Earth or races that simply live hidden in undersea and underground bases within the Earth and inter / intra dimensionally.
5. The re-terraforming of the Earth and eventual reduction of the population of surface Earth down to around 500 million. (see Georgia Guidestones and Iron Mountain Report for more info on this…)
6. The use and acquisition of technology to maintain their edge and power in all the above.
This covers the most basic parameters of the raison d’être or MO (modus operandi) for the creation and maintenance of the Secret Space Program.
With that in mind, let’s look at how they go about achieving such far-reaching goals. And that brings us to the Black Projects themselves. It is beyond the scope of this article to address every Black Project they are working on (or have worked on over the years). Suffice to say, what we can address are several of the top Black Projects that will give us a very good idea of what arenas they are working on, so that you, the People and those in positions of responsibility within the power structure, can begin to understand where your money is going and what you are supporting.
The Providence of Information
Before we address the different topics the Black Projects cover let’s deal with where this information comes from with regard to those projects. That is, how do we know? We know because of the many whistleblowers both public and behind closed doors who have come forward to reveal the levels and depth of the secrecy and who give testimony and sometimes hard evidence in the form of technical specs, documentation and even tangible evidence i.e. technology and other evidence (photos, films, etc).
In other words, we are indebted to those who have worked on these PROJECTS who have either escaped, been let-go or retired from or in some cases, communicated from inside. Those who are still employed by the SECRET GOVERNMENT leak information to individuals and organizations around the world. (see Project Camelot for one example). Some evidence has also been obtained from law enforcement, FBI, and other alphabet agencies and military (that is, surface military who have stumbled on evidence either by accident or intention that begins to reveal a particular PROJECT.
Which leads to the question of who to believe and what to believe even when it is staring you in the face. Ultimately, it is through the triangulation and simple multiplication of reports coming from individuals or places unrelated to each other (in other words, people who don’t know each other). Individuals coming forward often at totally different times and places with the SAME or SIMILAR information LEADING IN A DIRECTION which after further investigation may lead to the SAME PLACE or CONCLUSION.
So it is a given that information can and is suspect until further substantiated, but once it has been substantiated time and time again over the years… a picture can and does EMERGE.
The Black Projects in Short
So what are at least some of those primary BLACK PROJECTS that our SECRET GOVERNMENT has been involved in FUNDING and committing resources to, including HUMAN RESOURCES over the years?
1. MK ULTRA MIND CONTROL OF HUMANITY including but not limited to:
A. Microwaves, scaler waves, EMP and more
B. Programming through TVs, radios and internet, media
C. Programming through education, religious institutions etc.
D. Music and art forms (i.e. Rock music see Peter Levenda for more on this)
E. CIA and NSA use of electronics, hypnosis, drugs, neural linguistics etc
F. Food and atmosphere alteration, additives
G. Chemtrails : a vast program underway with many purposes
H. Drones & surveillance of all kinds
2. UNDERGROUND BASES AND CITIES
For use in the future and now in case of :
A. Nuclear winter/fallout
B. CMEs (Coronal Mass Ejections) or EMP (electro magnetic pulses – events from the Sun (super storms)
C. Labs: to explore uses of and discovery of new technologies and to house and store those working on the discoveries of technologies and to store (hide) technologies and products of such from “the People” and other rival governments and ET races..
D. EARTH CHANGES: To prepare and use as shelter in the advent of major Earth Changes involving Earthquakes, Meteor showers, Tsunamis, Volcanoes, High velocity Winds, Electromagnetic Storms, etc.
E. Prepare and shelter during POLE SHIFTS (magnetic) or POLE REVERSALS aka Day After Tomorrow scenario
F. INCOMING PLANETOIDS/ METEORS and ELE (extinction level events)
G. As a place to house all BLACK PROJECTS and the evidence thereof
H. To house and create or build: ARMIES OF SUPER SOLDIERS (both human and non-human, androids robots etc. (see below and the Camelot interviews with Duncan O’Finioan, Aaron McCollum and Pete Peterson)
I. To establish a secret military
J. To build weapons and SPACE CRAFT for use in space travel and wars with various unfriendly ET races whether visiting or terrestrial both undersea and in residence here on Earth surface or underground.
K. For experimentation on Humans including but not limited to MIB abductions working in collusion with Grey ETs. Farming of human body parts and fluids to “feed” reptilian ETs and reptilian based races such as some Greys. (see Dulce material for more on this).
…and much more
3. WARFARE : Building weapons for space war, starwars, biowarfare, satellite grids, nanotech, nano satellite grids operated by an AI involving SKYNET (a centralized AI possibly known as MOTHER) for use in ALL OF THE ABOVE in other words in MIND CONTROL, WEATHER WARS, WARS WITH INVADING AND RESIDING HOSTILE RACES both human, ET or off worlders (who may look human or not) or who may temporarily takeover a human vessel for use etc. For more on this also see : Anthony Sanchez, Project Leonid
4. SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH into all of the above.
From a report issued by Bill Cooper with regard to a person who contacted him.
…”He showed me a military I.D. card from Fort Carson and another with a strange checker board design on it. He said he had a Super Top Secret clearance and worked as a laboratory assistant in southwestern Colorado associated with the Delta Group out of Fort Carson.
He witnessed cryogenic experimentation going on with human beings. This experimentation was conducted by both ‘aliens’ and some Super Secret intelligence group. Some high ranking military and scientific personnel were taken down to cryogenic temperatures through a process of draining their blood and pumping a chemical mixture into the circulatory system to prevent cell destruction during the freezing and thawing periods.
The ‘aliens’ were the only ones who knew the mixture formula and the gradual thawing process. They at first refused to give the formula and process to the scientific team, and threatened to leave the above mentioned personnel in that cryogenic state forever unless the scientists cooperated on some certain issues.” — from THE DULCE PROTOCOL by Robert K. Teske (a producer who has assembled reams of pertinent info about the DULCE base and secret space program. Available on Amazon.
5. BUILDING & HOUSING SPACE CRAFT… based on ET technology NOT available in the public sector. Some of these craft are spotted and called UFOs but they are actually “ours” as opposed to craft flown by visiting races.
6. TIME TRAVEL – altering TIME LINES for humanity, traveling from planet to planet or dimensional travel. Dealing with races from other galaxies… and more. For example, the Mars we see and the Mars that the Secret Space Program is “jumping to” (see Camelot video “Jump room to Mars) is a 4th Dimensional Mars. They are entering via a portal on surface Mars which takes them to a Mars with green grass etc. Terraformed and welcoming to humans according to a highly placed whistleblower still employed by them.
7. VIEWING & PREDICTING THE FUTURE – in order to prepare for and/or alter it (see time travel)
8. LONGEVITY & GENETICS : cures for cancer and other diseases, prolonging life and all the possible ways of genetically enhancing the human as well as creating whole new species (Jurassic Park) etc. Dulce and work with certain races of Greys to create a Grey-human hybrid to repopulate the Earth going forward (after the Earth changes?) and other genetic re-engineering of the human genome to build a better, faster more advanced race of humans (Humanity 2.0).
9. SUPER SOLDIER PROGRAM : training children and young men and women to be spies and secret agents as well as soldiers to fly the craft and fight hostile off and on planet races and beings that they designate as “the enemy” as well as to police you and and rest of the masses. (see multiple Camelot interviews including Duncan O’Finioan, Aaron McCollum, John Robey (Torchwood is real)… and many more.
10. SOUL RETRIEVAL AND TRANSFERENCE : Taking souls from bodies and putting them into stasis and then into new bodies to serve the ‘machine’ of the secret state. Clones, androids etc. using Grey technology.
11. TERRAFORMING EARTH FOR A NEW SPECIES. There is substantial evidence that the Chemtrails program is part of an ongoing effort to change our atmosphere. This includes intentionally created events such as FUKUSHIMA. Such orchestrated events involve a release of radiation that could have a significant affect on the amount of cancer in the population in years to come as well as the GULF OIL SPILL creating a more methane-like environment more conducive to certain races of Greys and Reptilians.
The increase in the number of children with Autism is a case in point. There is evidence that radiation exposure by parents leads to a high incidence of Autism in children. Autism is especially prized by the Secret Space Program because Autistic Children test have a greater predisposition for being pre-cogs (ability to see into the future and predict events).
Hiding in Plain Sight – A Note on Secrecy
It is also useful to also understand that Black Projects also exist and are worked on above ground in plain sight (hidden in plain sight) in addition to being underground. They can be found in corporations with well known names such as BOEING, (defense industry), WESTINGHOUSE, MERCK, MONSANTO and countless others including NASA, JPL and think tanks such as TAVISTOCK in the UK and RAND in the U.S.
Many seemingly above board public domain projects within companies are operated using the ‘layers of the onion’ concept to disguise them from prying eyes. The Hadron Super Collider is one such project. The conventional purpose of this experiment is a cover for a massive time travel, timeline operation. Finding the “God Particle” is also highly significant and widely misunderstood and ignored. According to a source this new find allows mankind to actually create all matter and even worlds, that is holograms far beyond what is currently conceptualized or dreamed of.
This, then, is the scale and complexity of the terrain we are dealing with when we look at the BLACK PROJECTS / SECRET SPACE PROGRAM.
The Controllers and the Future of Earth
None of the above, as part of the Black Projects black hole is under the purview or control of the “surface government” or elected officials. Therefore, it is obvious that the people have no say in how the monies brought in from drugs (see THE LAST CIRCLE by Cheri Seymour/ PROMIS SOFTWARE SAGA for more on this…on Amazon complete book here) or through front organizations such as PUREHEART and its many subsidiaries or by other clandestine methods. For example, human trafficking or gun running, are used, to say nothing of the fraud and outright stealing that goes on within this framework when interfacing with surface companies and individuals also known as the topsiders, sheep and by other derisive terms.
Note: The psychology of those who are dealing in both worlds, coming from an “advanced civilization” to deal with the “sheep” or “useless eaters” doubtless results in attitudes of supreme arrogance and even pity. The impact upon families and the surface society can only be imagined at this point..
As a result, over the years, this organization, this hidden world has become in essence a CIVILIZATION that is feeding off of the surface world but not responsible to it. And in some cases it is highly likely that members of this rogue group never even interact with the surface government or establishment. It follows no laws but its own and reports to no one save its Masters be they human or nonhuman.
What is important from the perspective of grasping what is going on is understanding that everything that is operating above ground is ultimately run by and in service to and overseen by, a group who are creating and building a world that in most cases, you and your families are not going to benefit from or even participate in.
In fact, as it is becoming obvious, the ROGUE CIVILIZATION is deciding your future without asking or consulting you. They are making decisions that concern you every day, and you have no vote and no say. They have plans that involve the health and well being of every human on the planet and are deciding which bloodlines on Earth will live and which will die.
In the end, you are the ones to decide. If you work for these people or organizations, is this what you want?
Project Talent – Your Children are at Risk
In a sense we are talking about a Rogue Civilization that is living off of, and siphoning off talent. They are taking your children at a young age, tracking them through school and placing opportunities within their reach to draw them like flies into the service of the secret government and black projects but only if they find they have the unique talent and abilities or come from the bloodlines they desire.
Knowing is only the Beginning
This is where the money is going. You could view this Rogue group vs. the surface Earth civilization as a parasite feeding off the host. At what point does the host recognize it is being drained and once you recognize this what do you want to do about it? What can you do about it?
If you are an official or on a high level with respect to the surface Earth ruling elite you are in a position to begin to recognize what you are part of and to then take certain actions to change that. This could include for example, possibly going so far as to ‘blow the whistle’ on what you have been part of.
Awareness of a problem is the first step. Deciding what to do with your new found knowledge once you have verified for yourself that it is real, is another. It is in your hands. Our futures, at least at the present time are intrinsically linked to that of those who are working within the Black Projects. We share this Earth with this group and they have become our rulers. They are using and abusing the people of the planet to serve their agenda. The question is, what do you intend to do about it?
Reference materials for further study coming soon…
Is a UFO war underway between extraterrestrials and naval forces? That’s the shocking claim being made by a former US military contractor and scientist named John Kettler who alleges there is a UFO war raging in the waters off Antarctica, according to information made available on Oct. 26, 2012 by the Exopolitics Institute News Service.
According to John Kettler, a former US military contractor and scientist, there is an expanding UFO war that is now taking place in waters off Antarctica. Kettler cites unnamed “sensitive sources” to substantiate his claims that a US led coalition of naval forces is militarily engaging with hostile extraterrestrials. This UFO war is an extension of alleged naval battles off the coast of San Francisco earlier reported by Gordon Duff from Veterans Today who refers to his own unnamed “reliable” sources. There is little more than a collection of unnamed sources supporting such allegations, and there is good reason to conclude that Kettler’s and Duff’s claims are part of a psychological warfare operation that may be related to planning for a false flag alien event. There is one historical incident that casts light on whether or not Kettler’s claims are part of a psychological warfare program being slowly unveiled to the world. There is new evidence that Admiral Richard Byrd’s famed 1946/1947 naval expedition Operation High Jump did encounter and battle a mysterious UFO force in Antarctic waters.
According to John Kettler, who has written a series of articles claiming that the US Navy along with its allies are battling hostile extraterrestrials based in underwater locations in the Pacific:
The UFO War continues to expand, with heavy action in the Antarctic Ocean … according to highly sensitive sources. Two submarines of the Chinese PLAN (Peoples Liberation Army Navy) have been slammed together, resulting in injuries, but no fatalities, to the submariners inside them.
Kettler goes on to claim:
Last night, 20 UFOs, traveling at 25,000 mph, left the Antarctic Ocean in a group and went to Guadalajara, Mexico. Another group of 15, flying at the same speed, went to Argentina. This morning, 12 more emerged and went to Chile.
What caused the sudden rush of these most powerful leaders of the Western World to go to Afghanistan, this report continues, was to directly view the discovery by US Military scientists of what is described as a “Vimana” entrapped in a “Time Well”
that has already caused the “disappearance” of at least 8 American Soldiers trying to remove it from the cave it has been hidden in for the past estimated 5,000 years.
Vimana
Vimāna is a word with several meanings ranging from temple or palace to mythological flying machines described in Sanskrit epics.
Reference to ancient Indian flying vehicles comes from ancient Indian sources, many are the well known ancient Indian Epics, and there are literally hundreds of them. Most of them have not even been translated into English yet from the old sanskrit.
It is claimed that a few years ago, the Chinese discovered some sanskrit documents in Lhasa, Tibet and sent them to the University of Chandrigarh to be translated. Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University said recently that the documents contain directions for building interstellar spaceships!
Their method of propulsion, she said, was “anti-gravitational” and was based upon a system analogous to that of “laghima,” the unknown power of the ego existing in man’s physiological makeup, “a centrifugal force strong enough to counteract all gravitational pull.”
According to Hindu Yogis, it is this “laghima” which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called “Astras” by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet, according to
the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old. The manuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of “antima”, “the cap of invisibility” and “garima”, “how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead.”
Steve Quayle
Stephen Quayle is the author of five books. For over thirty years, he has been investigating ancient civilizations, giants, UFOs and biological warfare as they relate to the future of mankind. Stephen discusses the coming worst-case scenarios approaching this world and how they interrelate to each other. Earthquakes, volcanoes, nuclear and biological terrorism, coupled with the planned financial meltdown of the U.S. dollar will thrust us into unimagined tribulations. Stephen Quayle is on record as stating that we have moved from the realm of natural threats into the arena of supernaturally guided events of the unseen hand of evil orchestrating world events of unfathomable proportions.
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Following recent developments where the FBI released documents recording supposed UFO crashes in the Roswell area this amazing footage allegedly showing a UFO crash survivor has been leaked onto the internet. The individual who released the footage has remained anonymous, reportedly for their own protection. The footage came to light on All News Web, a well known paranormal and UFO website. According to Michael Cohen, the renowned Australian ufologist and psychic, the humanoid alien visitor is from the Zeta Reticuli star system.
Note of the Editor of Brother Veritus’ Website: These English translations were edited to correct English grammatical errors but message and intent were left intact. The word “Ilojiim” or “Illojim” used extensively in these texts could mean “Elohim”, since this is the equivalent traditional word used in Western culture, however, this term may indicate a different galactic race. The illustrations are not of Lacerta.
I certify that the following text is the absolute truth and no work of fiction. These are parts of a transcript of an interview I’ve made with a non-human and reptilian being in December 1999. This female being was already in contact with a friend of mine (whose name is given only with the abbreviation E.F. in the text) since some months. Let me declare, that I was all my life a skeptic about UFOs, aliens and other weird things and I thought that E.F. tells me just dreams or fictitious stories when he talked with me about his First Contacts with the non-human being “Lacerta”. I was still a skeptic when I met this being on December 16 last year in that small warm room in the remote house of my friend near to a town in the south of Sweden, despite the fact that I saw now with my own eyes that she was not human. She has told and shown me so many unbelievable things during that meeting that I can’t deny the reality and the truth of her words any longer. This is not another of that wrong UFO papers which claim to tell the truth but tell in fact just fiction, I’m convinced that this transcript contains the only truth and therefore you should read it.
I had talked with her for over 3 hours, so the following transcript shows you only shortened parts of the interview, because she asked me after the interview not to publish everything she had told me already now. The order of the questions in this transcript is not always the same order in which I had asked them, so it may seem sometimes a little bit confusing to you. It was not easy to delete all the important parts she had asked me to delete from the transcript, so I apologize for the maybe unusual order. I’m in the possession of the entire transcript of the interview (49 pages with some of my drawings of her body and her equipment) and also of some tapes on which I have the full interview, but I will not reveal this before I have permission from her. I will send this shortened form of the still fascinating document to four of my reliable friends to Finland, Norway, Germany and France and I hope they will translate it into their own languages and into other languages and I hope as many people as possible will be able to read and to understand the transcript. If you receive it, please send it to all your friends via e-mail or make print-outs and copy them.
I certify furthermore, that various “paranormal” abilities of her species like telepathy and telekinesis (including the moving and dancing of my pencil on the table without touching and the flying of an apple around 40 centimeters over her hands) were shown to me during the 3 hours and 6 minutes of the meeting and I’m absolutely sure that these abilities were no tricks. The following is certainly difficult to understand and to believe for someone who hasn’t experienced it, but I was really in contact with her mind and I’m now completely sure that everything she said during the interview is the absolute truth about our world.
Unfortunately, if I read the entire transcript and (much more) this very shortened form by myself I have the strong impression, that everything I’ve written sounds too unbelievable to be true, that everything sounds more like a bad science fiction story from TV or cinema and I have doubts that anyone will believe my experiences. But they are true, if you believe it or not. I can’t expect from you that you believe my simple words without evidence, but I can’t give you that evidence. Please read the transcript and think about it and you will maybe see the truth in these words.
There will be a new meeting between me and her (again in the same house in Sweden) on April 23 2000 and she promised me to give me maybe some evidence for her existence. In the meantime I collect questions which I will ask her then. Maybe she gives me permission to reveal more of the missing parts in that transcript and about the coming war.
Believe it or not, this makes no real difference (but I hope you will believe.)
Ole K.
Transcript of Interview (Shortened Version)
December 16, 1999
Question: First of all, who are you and what are you? Are you an extraterrestrial species or can your origin be found on this planet?
Answer: As you could see with your own eyes, I’m not a human being like you and to be honest I’m no real mammal (despite my partly mammal-like body features, which are a result of evolution.) I’m a female reptile being, belonging to a very old reptilian race. We are the native terrans and we live on that planet since millions of years. We are mentioned in your religious writings like your Christian Bible and many of the ancient human tribes were aware of our presence and worshipped us as gods, for example the Egyptians and the Inca and many other old tribes. Your Christian religion has misunderstood our role in your creation, so we are mentioned as “evil serpent” in your writings. This is wrong. Your race was genetically engineered by aliens and we were just the more or less passive visitors of this accelerated evolution process. You must know (some of your scientists have already supposed this) that your species had evolved in a naturally completely impossible speed within just 2 – 3 millions of years. This is absolutely impossible, because evolution is a much slower process if it’s natural but you have not understood this. Your creation was artificial and done by genetic engineering, but not by us but by an alien species. If you ask me, if I’m an extraterrestrial, I must answer no. We are native terrans. We had and have some colonies in the solar system, but we originate on this planet. It’s in fact our planet and not yours – it was never yours.
Question: Can you tell me your name?
Answer: This is difficult, because your human tongue is not able to pronounce it correctly (and a mispronunciation of our names is very offensive for some of my kind.) Our language is very different from yours, but my name is —I will try to say it smoother by use of your human letters— something like “Sssshiaassshakkkasskkhhhshhh” with a very, very strong pronunciation of the “sh” and “k” sounds. We have no forenames like you but only a single but unique name which is divided and characterized by the way of speaking and which is given not to children (who have an own children-name) but only in a special procedure in the adolescent age at the time of either religious or scientific “enlightenment” or awareness (as you would call it.) I would appreciate it if you don’t try to say my real name with your human tongue. Please call me “Lacerta”, this is the name I generally use when I’m among humans and talk with them.
Question: How old are you?
Answer: We measure the time not like you in astronomical years and in the revolving of the earth around sun, because we usually live beneath the surface of the planet. Our time measurement depends on periodically returning cycles in the earth magnetic field and according to this (and said with your numbers) I’m today —let me calculate— 57,653 cycles old. I have reached my adult phase and my awareness 16,337 cycles ago (this is a very important date for us.) According to your human time scale I’m around 28 years old.
Question: What is your task? Do you have a “job” like us?
Answer: To say it with your words: I’m a curios student of the social behavior of your species. That’s why I’m here and talk to you, that’s why I have revealed my real nature to E.F. and now to you and that’s why I give you all that secret information and why I will try to answer all the questions on your many sheets of paper honestly. I will see how you react, how others of your kind react. There are so many crazies and liars of your kind on this planet who claim to know the truth about us, about UFOs, about aliens and so on and some of you believe their lies. I’m interested to see how your species will react if you make the truth (which I will tell you now) public. I’m quite sure everyone of you will refuse to believe my words, but I hope I’m wrong, because you need to understand if you want to survive the coming years.
Question: I’ve read your full statement (which you have given to E.F.) about this, but can you give me now just a short answer: are UFOs real flying objects piloted by extraterrestrials or do they belong to your species?
Answer: Some observed UFOs – as you call them – belong to us, but most not. Most of the “mysterious” flying objects in the sky are not technological devices but mainly misinterpretations of natural phenomena your scientists have not understood (like spontaneous plasma flares in the high atmosphere.) Nevertheless, some UFOs are real craft belonging either to your own species (especially to your military) or to other alien species or at last to us (but a minority of sighted craft belongs really to us, because we are generally very careful with our movements in the atmosphere and we have special ways to hide our ships.) If you read a report about a sighting of a metallic bright-gray cigar-shaped cylindrical object with a length of —there are different types— let me say between 20 and 260 of your meters and if this object had made a very deep humming sound and if there were 5 bright red lights on the metallic surface of the cigar (one at the top, one in the middle, two at the end) then it’s likely that someone of you have seen one of our ships and this means that it was either partly defect or that someone of us was not careful enough. We have also a very small fleet of disc-shaped craft, but such UFOs belong usually to an alien species. Triangular UFOs belong generally to your own military but they use foreign technology to build them. If you really want to try to see one of our craft, you should have a look at the skies over the Arctic, the Antarctic and over Inner Asia (especially over the mountains there.)
Question: Have you a special symbol or something like that with which we can identify your kind?
Answer: We have two major symbols representing our species. One (the more ancient) symbol is a blue serpent with four white wings on a black background (the colors have religious meanings for us.) This symbol was used from certain parts of my society, but it is today very seldom —you humans have copied it very often in your old writings. The other symbol is a mystic being you would call a “Dragon” in the shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle. This symbol is much more common today. If you see one of that symbols on a cylindrical craft I’ve described in my previous answer or on some underground installation, this thing or place belongs definitely to us (and I would advise you to go away from there as soon as possible.)
Question: The seven stars in the second symbol you’ve mentioned, do they mean the Pleiades?
Answer: Pleiades? No. Actually, the seven stars are planets and moons and they are a symbol for our former seven colonies in the solar system. The stars are shown in front of a blue background and the dragon-circle means the shape of Earth. The seven white stars mean Moon, Mars, Venus and 4 moons of Jupiter and Saturn, we had colonized in the past. Two colonies are no longer in use and abandoned, so 5 stars would be more correct.
Question: As you have not allowed me to make photos —what would be very useful to prove your real existence and the truth of this story— can you describe yourself detailed?
Answer: I know that it would be helpful to prove the authenticity of this interview if you can make some photos from me. Otherwise, you humans are very skeptic (that’s good for us and for the real alien species acting secretly on this planet) so even if you had such photos, many of your kind would say that they are fraud, that I’m just a masked human woman or something like that (that would be very offensive for me.) You must understand that I can’t give you permission to make photos of me or of my equipment. This have various reasons, which I want not to discuss with you further, but one of the reasons is the keeping up of the secrecy of our existence, another reason is more religious. Nevertheless, you have permission to make drawings of my look and of my equipment I can show you later. I can also try to describe myself, but I doubt that others of your kind will be able to imagine my real look just from simple words, because the automatic denial of the existence of reptilian species and generally of intelligent species other than your own is part of the programming of your mind. Well, I will try.
Imagine the body of a normal human woman and you have at first a good imagination of my body. Like you, I have a head, two arms, two hands, two legs and two feet and the proportions of my body are like yours. As I’m female I have also two breasts (despite our reptile origin, we have started to give milk to our babies during the evolution process —this happened around 30 million years ago— because this is the best thing to keep the young alive. Evolution had done this for your species already in the dinosaur age and —a little bit later— also for ours. That means not that we are now real mammals) but the breasts of us are not as large as those of human woman and the size of them is generally equal for every female of my kind. The external reproduction organs are for both sexes smaller than those of humans, but they are visible and they have the same function as yours (another gift of evolution to our species.)
My skin is mainly of a green-beige colour – more pale green – and we have some patterns of brown irregular dots (each dot of the size of 1 – 2 centimeters) on our skin and in our face (the patterns are different for both sexes but females have more, especially in the lower body and in the face.) You can see them in my case as two lines over the eyebrows crossing my forehead, at my cheek and at my chin. My eyes are a little bit larger than human eyes (for this reason, we can see better in the darkness) and usually dominated from the large black pupils, which are surrounded from a small bright-green iris (males have a dark-green iris). The pupil is slit and can change its size from a small black line to a wide-open egg-shaped oval, because our retina is very light sensitive and the pupil must compare this. We have external round ears but they are smaller and not so curved as yours, but we can hear better because our ears are more sensitive for sonic (we can also hear a wider range of sonic). There’s a muscle or “lid” over the ears which can completely close them (for example under water). Our nose is more pointed and there is a V-shaped curving between the nostrils, which enabled the ancestors to “see” temperature. We have lost most of this ability, but we can still feel temperature much better with this “organ”. Our lips are shaped like yours (those of females a little bit larger than those of males) but of a pale brown colour and our teeth are very white and strong and a little bit longer and sharper than your soft mammal teeth. We have no different hair colors like you (but there is a tradition to colour the hairs in different ages) and the original colour is —like mine— a greenish brown. Our hairs are thicker and stronger than yours and they grow very slow. In addition, the head is the only part of our body where we have hairs.
Our body, arms and legs are similar in shape and size to yours, but the color is different (green-beige, like the face) and there are scale-like structures on the upper legs (over the knee) and upper arms (over the elbow). Our five fingers are a little bit longer and thinner than human fingers and our skin on the palm is plain, so we have no lines like you but again a combination of a scale-like skin structure and of the brown dots (both sexes have the dots on the palm) and we have no fingerprints like you. If you touch my skin, you will feel that it is smoother than your hairy skin. There are small sharp horns on the upside of both middle fingers. The fingernails are grey and generally longer than yours. You see that my nails are not so long and round at the top. This is because I’m female. Males have sharp pointed nails with a length of sometimes 5 or 6 of your centimeters. The following feature is very different from your body and part of our reptilian origin: if you touch the backside of my upper body you will feel a hard bony line through my clothing. This is not my spine but a very difficult shaped external plate-structure of skin and tissue following exactly our spine from the head to the hip. There is an extremely high number of nerves and large blood vessels in this structure and in the plates (which are around two or three centimeters long and very touch sensitive – this is the reason why we have always problems to sit in chairs with a back like this chair.) The main task of these small plates (beside a role in our sexuality) is simply the regulation of our body temperature and if we sit in natural or artificial sunlight, these plates become more blood-filled and the vessels become wider and the sun is able to heat up our reptoid blood (which circulates through the body and through the plates) for many degrees and that gives us a great pleasure.
What else is different from your kind? Oh, we have no navel, because we were born in a different way to your mammal birth. The other exterior differences from your kind are minor and I think I must not mention all now, because most of them are not visible if we wear clothing. I hope the description of my body was detailed enough. I would advice you to make some drawings.
Question: What kind of clothing do you generally wear? I suppose this is not the way you dress normally?
Answer: No, I wear this human every-day-clothing only when I’m among humans. To be honest, it’s not very comfortable for me to wear such tight things and it is always a very unusual feeling. If we are in our own home (this means in our subterranean home) or in our large artificial sun areas and if we are together with others near to our own name, we are usually naked. Is this shocking for you? When we are in the public and together with many others of my species we wear very wide and soft clothing made of thin, light stuff. I have told you that many parts of our bodies are very touch sensitive, mostly the small back plates so we can’t feel comfortable in tight clothing because it can hurt us. Man and woman wear often the same kind of clothing, but the colors are different for the sexes.
Question: You’ve said “others near to your own name”. Do you mean your family?
Answer: No, not really. You would call it “family” but with this word you mean only those of your kind which belong genetically together like father or mother and child. As I have said earlier we have a very difficult and unique name. Part of the pronunciation of that name is absolute unique and there is no other being with the same name, but part of this name (the middle part) is pronounced in a way that told the others to which “family” (I must use the word, because you haven’t the right one in your vocabulary) you belong. This means not that all in that group are genetically related to you, because these groups are usually very large and contain between 40 and 70 of us. This group includes generally your genetic relations – except one of them had decided to left this group – and your connection with father and mother is often the strongest. It would be too difficult for me to explain you now our very old social system which is very complex and we would need many hours only for the primary things. Maybe we can meet another time and I can give you detailed descriptions of all these things.
Question: Have you a tail like normal reptiles?
Answer: Do you see one? No, we have no visible tail. If you look at our skeleton, there is only a small rounded bone at the end of our spine behind the pelvis. This is a useless rudiment of the tail of our ancestors, but it is not visible from the outside. Oh, our embryos have tails during the first months of development, but these tails disappear before they were born. A tail makes only sense for a primitive species which tries to walk on two legs and must held the balance with the tail, but our skeleton had changed during evolution and our spine is nearly in the same shape as yours, so we need no tail to stay on two feet.
Question: You said that you were born in a different way to us. Do you lay eggs?
Answer: Yes, but not like your birds or primitive reptiles. Actually, the embryo grows in a protein liquid inside the mother’s womb, but there is also an egg-shaped but very thin chalk hull around it, that fills the whole womb. The embryo inside this hull is completely autarky from the mother’s body and it has every substance it needs to develop inside this chalk hull. There is also a cord like your navel cord which is connected to a point hidden behind the back plates. When the baby is going to be born, the whole egg is pressed through the vagina covered in a slimy protein substance and the baby came out of this soft egg after some minutes. These two horns on our middle fingers were instinctively used from babies to break through the chalk hull to take their first breath. Our young are not so large as your babies when they were born, they are between 30 and 35 of your centimeters tall, the egg is around 40 centimeters tall (this is because our vagina is smaller than a human one) but we grow to a normal size of 1,60 to 1,80 meters.
Question: What about your body temperature? You’ve said that you enjoy to lay in the sun. What effect has this to your organism?
Answer: We are no mammals and as reptiles our body temperature depends on the temperature of our surrounding. If you touch my hand you will maybe feel that it is colder than yours, because our normal body temperature is around 30 to 33 degree Celsius. If we sit in the sun (especially naked and with our row of small back plates in the sun) our body temperature can rise for 8 or 9 degrees within minutes. This rise causes a production of many enzymes and hormones in our body, our heart and brain and every organ becomes more active and we feel than very, very good. You humans only enjoy being in the sun but for us it is the greatest pleasure you can imagine (maybe like your sexual excitement.) We also enjoy swimming in very warm water or other liquids to rise our body temperature. If we are for some hours in the shadow, our temperature goes back to 30 to 33 degrees. This can cause no harm to us, but we feel much better in the sun. We have artificial sun-rooms in the underground but this is not the same for us like the real sun.
Question: What do you eat?
Answer: Generally various things like you: flesh, fruit, vegetables, special kinds of fungus (from subterranean farms) and other things. We can also eat and digest some substances which are poisonous for you. The main difference between you and us is that we must eat flesh, because our body needs the proteins. We can’t live completely vegetarian like your kind because our digestion would stop working and we would die after some weeks or maybe months without flesh. Many of us eat raw flesh or other things which would be disgusting for you. Personally, I prefer cooked flesh and surface fruits like apples or oranges.
Question: Can you tell me something about the natural history and evolution of your species? How old is your species? Have you evolved from primitive reptiles as mankind has evolved from apes?
Answer: Oh, this is a very long and complex story and it sounds certainly unbelievable to you, but it’s the truth. I will try to explain it in short. Around 65 million years ago, many of our unadvanced ancestors from the dinosaur race died in a great global cataclysm. The reason for this destruction was not a natural disaster – an asteroid impact as your scientists believe falsely – but a war between two enemy alien groups that took mainly place in the orbit and high atmosphere of your planet. According to our limited knowledge about the early days this global war was the first alien war on planet earth but it was definitely not the last (and a future war is coming soon, while a “cold war” – as you call it – between alien groups is ongoing since the last 73 years on your planet.) The opponents in this 65 million year old war were two advanced alien species, whose both names are again not pronounceable for your tongues. I’m able to say them but it would hurt your ear if I tell you the names in their original way. One race was humanoid like your species (but much older) and was from this universe, from a solar system in the star constellation you call “Procyon” today in your maps. The other species – about which we know not so much – was a reptilian species, but they have nothing to do with our own species, because we have evolved from local saurians without exterior influence (except the successful manipulation of our own genes by us. More about that later.) The advanced reptilian species came not from this universe but from a – well, how should I explain it to you. Your scientists have not really understood the true nature of the universe, because your illogical mind is not able to see the easiest things and relies on wrong mathematics and numbers. This is part of the genetic programming of your kind to which I will come later. Let me say, that you are nearly as far away from the understanding of the universe as you were 500 years ago.
To use a term you will maybe understand: the other species came not from this universe but from another “bubble” in the foam of the Omniverse. You would call it maybe another dimension, but this is not the right word to describe it correctly (by the way, the term dimension is generally wrong in the way you understand it.) The fact you should remember is, that advanced species are able to “walk” between bubbles by use of – as you would call it – quantum technology and sometimes in special ways only by use of their mind (my own species had also advanced mental abilities in comparison to your species, but we are not able to do the matter-string/bubble changing without technology, but other species active on this planet are able and this looks to you like magic as it had to your ancestors.)
Back to our own history: the first species (the humanoids) had reached Earth around 150 years before the reptilians and they built some colonies on the former continents. There was a large colony on the continent you call “Antarctica” today and another one in the continent you call “Asia” today. These people lived together with animal-like saurians on the planet without problems. When the advanced reptilian species arrived in this system, the humanoid colonists from “Procyon” tried to communicate peacefully, but they were not successful and a global war started within months. You must understand that both species were interested in this young planet not for his biology and undeveloped species, but for only one reason: raw material, especially copper. To understand this reason, you must know that copper is a very important material for some advanced species (even today) because it is – together with some unstable materials – able to produce new stable elements if you induce a high electromagnetic field in the right angle with a high nuclear radiation field to produce an over-crossing of fluctuating fields. The fusion of copper with other elements in such a magnetic/radiation field-chamber can produce a force field of special nature that is very useful for various technological tasks (but the base for this is an extremely complex formula you are not able to discover because of the restrictions of your simple mind.) Both species wanted to have the copper of Planet Earth and for this reason they fought a not very long war in space and orbit. The humanoid species seemed to be successful during the first time, but in a last battle the reptilians decided to use a mighty experimental weapon – a special kind of fusion bomb which should destroy the life forms on the planet but should not harm the valuable raw materials and the copper. The bomb was fired from space and detonated at a point of your planet you call “Middle America” today. As it detonated in the ocean, it produced an unpredictable fusion with hydrogen and the effect was much stronger than the reptilians had expected. A deadly radiation, an over-production of fusion-oxygen, a fall-out of different elements and a “nuclear winter” for nearly 200 years were the result. Most of the humanoids were killed and the reptilians lost their interest on the planet after some years for (even for us) unknown reasons – maybe because of the radiation. Planet Earth was on its own again and the animals on the surface died. By the way, one result of the fusion bomb was the fall-out of different elements and materials created in the burning process and one of those materials was Iridium. Your human scientists today see the Iridium concentration in the ground as an evidence for an asteroid impact that killed the dinosaurs. That is not true, but how should you know that?
Well, most of the dinosaurs died (not all in the detonation but in the bad things which came after the war, especially in the nuclear winter and in the fall-out.) Nearly all dinosaurs and reptilians were dead within the next 20 years. Some of them —especially those in the oceans— were able to survive for the next 200 to 300 years even in this changed world, but these species also died, because the climate had changed. The nuclear winter ended after 200 years, but it was colder on earth than before. Despite the cataclysm, some species were able to survive: fish (like the sharks), birds, little creepy mammals (your ancestors), various reptiles like crocodiles… and there was a special kind of small but advanced dinosaurs which had developed together with the last large animal-reptilians like the species you call Tyrannosaurus.
This new reptile was walking on two legs and looked at little bit like your reconstruction of an Iguanodon (it originated in this family) but it was smaller (around 1.50 meters tall) with some humanoid features, a changed bone structure, a larger skull and brain, a hand with a thumb which was able to grab things, a different organism and digestion, advanced eyes in the middle of the head like your eyes and most important…with a new and better brain structure. This was our direct ancestor. There are theories that the radiation from the bomb took part in the mutations of the organism of this new breed, but this is not proven. Nevertheless, this little humanoid-like dinosaur evolved during the following 30 million years (as I have said earlier, a species need generally more time to evolve than you think, if the evolution is not artificially induced like in your case) from an animal to a more or less thinking being. These beings were intelligent enough not to die in the next millions of years, because they learned to change their behavior, they lived in caves instead in the cold nature and they learned to use stones and branches as first tools and the use of fire as help to warm them – especially to warm their blood which is very important for our kind to survive. During the next 20 million years this species was divided by nature into 27 sub-species (unfortunately, former reptilian species were prone to divide themselves in a more or less illogical way into sub-species during the evolution process. You can clearly see this in the unnecessary high number of animal-dinosaur species in earlier times) and there were many (mainly primitive) wars between this sub-species for dominance.
Well, nature was not very friendly to us and as far a we know from the 27 sub-species 24 were extinct in primitive wars and in evolution, because their organism and mind was not developed enough to survive and (as main reason) they were not able to change their blood temperature in the right way if the climate changed. 50 million years after the war and after the end of Dinosaurs, only three (now also technological) advanced reptilian species were remaining on this planet together with all the other lower animals. Through natural and artificial crossbreeding these three species were united to one reptilian species and through the invention of genetic manipulations, we were able to “eliminate” the dividing-prone genes in our genetic structure. According to our history and belief, this was the time when our final reptilian race – as you see me today – was created by use of genetic engineering. This was around 10 million years ago and our evolution nearly stopped at this point (well, actually there were some minor changes in our look toward a more humanoid and mammal-like appearance during the coming ages, but we have not divided again into sub-species). You see, we are a very old race in comparison to your kind, which was jumping around as small monkey-like animals in the trees at this time while we invented technology, colonized other planets of this system, built large cities on this planet (which disappeared without a trace in the ages) and engineered our own genes while your genes where still those of animals.
10 million years ago the small simians started to grow and they came down from the trees to the ground (again because of the change of the climate – especially on the so-called African continent.) But they evolved very slow as it is normal for a mammal and if nothing extraordinary had happened to your kind, we wouldn’t be able to sit here and talk because I would sit in my comfortable modern house and you would sit in your cave clothed with fur and trying to discover the secrets of fire – or you would maybe sit in one of our zoos. But the things had developed differently and you believe now you are the “crown of creation” and you can sit in the modern house and we must hide and live beneath the earth and in remote areas. Around 1,5 million years ago, another alien species arrived at Earth (it was surprisingly the first species since over 60 million years. This would be more surprising for you if you would know how many different species are today here.) The interest of this humanoid species – you call them “Illojim” today – was not the raw material and the copper, it were to our astonishment the unadvanced ape-humanoids. Despite of our presence on this planet, the aliens decided to “help” the apes to evolve a little bit faster, to serve them in the future as some kind of slave-race in coming wars. The fate of your species was not really important for us, but we didn’t like the presence of the “Illojim” on our planet and they didn’t liked our presence on their new “galactic zoo” planet and so your sixth and seventh creation was the reason for a war between us and them. You can read about that war for example partly in the book you call “Bible” in a very strange way of description. The real truth is a very long and difficult story. Should I continue?
Question: No, not now. I’ve made some notes about your history and now I have some questions.
Answer: Please ask.
Question: First of all, you handle with a very large time scale. You claim that your primitive ancestors lived together with the dinosaurs, survived the – as you called it – artificial cataclysm and evolved then over 40 million years and your evolution was completed 10 million years ago. This sounds very unbelievable to me. Can you say something to this?
Answer: I understand that this must sound absolutely unbelievable to you, because you are a young and genetically engineered species. Your historical horizon ends at a scale of just some thousands of years and you think this is right. But it isn’t. This is impossible. Your programmed mind is obviously not able to handle with such large time scales. Our evolution time may seem incredible long to you, but this is in fact the original way of nature. Remember, your early mammal ancestors developed together with dinosaurs and they survived the bomb like us. They evolved slowly during the next millions of years and they divided into various species and shapes, some of them larger, some of them smaller. This is evolution of the body. But what about their mind and intelligence? They were simple animals. The mammals evolved since —let us say— 150 millions of years, but only in the last 2 – 3 millions of years they were able to became intelligent and thinking. And within this small period beings like you were created. From nature? 148 millions of year’s time for the evolution of animal-like mammals, 2 millions of year’s time for the development of (more or less) intelligent beings like you? Ask yourself: Do you really think this accelerated evolution is natural? Then your species is more ignorant than I’ve thought. We have not evolved wrong but you.
Question: I understand. But I have another question. You’ve mentioned many facts about the ancient war between the aliens 65 million years ago. This happened very long before your kind became really intelligent (as far as I have understood you). Why do you know so many things about that “first war” and about the evolution of your species?
Answer: This is a good question (much better than the previous) and I have not explained it properly to you. Our knowledge about the first war comes completely from an ancient artifact, which was found around 16,000 years ago from our archeologists on the continent you call North America today. They found there a round plate with a diameter of approximately 47 of your centimeters. The plate was made of an even for us unknown magnetic material and inside the plate there was another smaller crystal plate which contained an enormous amount of information coded in the molecular structure of the crystal. This “memory plate” was manufactured from the last bomb survivors of human race from “Procyon” already 65 million years ago but it was completely intact when we found it. Our scientists were able to encode the messages and data and so we heard the first time about the events which took place in the distant past and which led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. The plate contained detailed descriptions of both species (but more about the humanoids) and about the events and weapons, including the fusion bomb. It contained also a description of the animals and saurians on earth, including our pre-intelligent ancestor species. The rest of our knowledge about our evolution comes from skeletons and from the back-reading and de/encoding of our DNA. You see, we know the real truth about our roots since 16,000 years. Before that time, there was a more religious idea of our creation.
Question: What have happened with the both alien species?
Answer: We don’t know exactly. The surviving humanoids on earth obviously died in the years after the bomb and others of their kind and the reptilians never came back to Earth (as far as we know). Concerning the reptilian aliens, there is a possibility that it was physically impossible for them to return, because the matter between bubbles is sometimes in rapid movement. The current theory is, that both species had ceased to exist during the millions of years.
Question: You’ve mentioned skeletons of your kind. How can it be, that human scientists haven’t found any trace of you and your ancestors if you really live for such a long time on this planet? We have found many skeletons of primitive dinosaurs, but none of an advanced reptilian being with a larger skull and brain and a hand with a thumb as you have described it before.
Answer: Yes, you have. But your “great” scientists were not able to reconstruct the skeletons completely, because they wanted to reconstruct reptilian animals, not intelligent beings. You would laugh if you would know how many of the (especially small) saurian skeletons in your museums are totally wrong constructions of never-existing beings, because you used many bones which didn’t really belong together and sometimes you made artificial bones if something was missing you needed to construct an “animal” saurian. Many of your scientists are aware of this problem, but they don’t make it public, because they can’t explain it and they claim, that the right bones were just missing and their reconstruction is right. Many bones of us were used for Iguanodon reconstructions, for example the hands with the visible thumb (look at an Iguanodon in a museum and you will see that I’m right.) A scientist in the country you call United States had built a nearly correct skeleton of our kind some years ago, but the local government (which is partly aware of our existence) confiscated the reconstruction. As we live today (and since thousands of years) nearly completely beneath the earth, you will not find any cadavers or skeletons of us.
Question: You speak sometimes about underground cities and artificial sunlight. Do you mean something like a “hollow Earth” with this? Is there a second sun inside our planet?
Answer: No, Earth is not really completely hollow and there is no second sun inside. This story is ridiculous and physically not possible (even your species should be intelligent enough not to believe this.) Do you know how much mass a sun must have to produce energy and light for a longer time by fusion? Do you really think that there could be a small active sun inside the planet? When I talk about our subterranean home, I talk about large cave systems. The caves you have discovered near to the surface are tiny in comparison to real caves and huge caverns deeper in the earth (in a depth of 2,000 to 8,000 of your meters, but connected with many hidden tunnels to the surface or to surface-near caves) and we live in large and advanced cities and colonies inside such caves. Major sites of us are beyond the Arctic, the Antarctic, Inner Asia, North America and Australia. If I talk about artificial sunlight in our cities I don’t mean a real sun but various technological sources of light (including gravitational sources) which illuminates the caverns and tunnels. There are special cave areas and tunnels with a strong UV light in every city and we use that places to heat our blood. Furthermore, we have also some surface sun places in remote areas, especially in America and Australia.
Question: Where can we find such a surface-near entry to your world?
Answer: Do you really think I will tell you their exact location? If you want to find such an entry, you have to search it by yourself (but I would advise you not to do that.) When I came to the surface four days ago, I used an entry approximately 300 of your kilometers north from here near to a large lake, but I doubt that you would be able to find it (there are only a few entries in this part of the world – more are far more north and east.) As a little advice: if you are in a narrow cave or in a tunnel or even in something that looks to you like an artificial mine shaft and as deeper you walk as smoother appear the walls and if you feel unusual warm air streaming from the depth or if you hear the rushing sound of streaming air in a ventilation or elevator shaft, then look for a special kind of artificial and smooth wall somewhere in the cave with a door made of gray metal. If you would be able to open that door (but I doubt this) you would be in a usually round technical room with ventilation systems and elevators to the depth. This is probably an entry to our world. If you have reached this point, you should know that we are now definitely aware of your presence. You are already in big trouble if you have entered the round room, but you should look for one of the two reptilian symbols on the walls. If there are no symbols or other symbols, you are maybe in bigger trouble as you think, because not every underground installation belongs to our kind. Some new tunnel systems are operated from alien races (including hostile races). My general advice if you find yourself in a, for you, strange underground installation: run away as fast as you can.
Question: You mentioned earlier that you use the name “Lacerta” when you are among humans and that you enjoy it to be in the real sun on the surface of earth. But how can you be among humans? You don’t look like us, so anyone will see that you belong to another species. Why have nobody seen and described a being like you if your kind lives already since our “creation” together with us on the same planet. Can you explain that to me?
Answer: First, my kind was of course seen and described (and worshipped) many times in your primitive past, for example in your religious writings like your Christian Bible. You can find descriptions and even simple drawings of us for also in the southern part of the American continent on various temples. So-called “wise” men from India and from the Asian mountains have described our species many times in writings, together with other “wise” men from the African continent. I think we are the most mentioned non-human species (maybe beside the “Illojim”) in your history. If you don’t believe me, have a look at your history and you will see the truth in my words. Your “great” scientists called the belief in us “superstition” and “religion” and today’s “intelligent” humans have forgotten our presence on the surface in the past.
Furthermore, our species is seen even today sometimes from human witnesses in its original shape on earth or in our surface-near entries and tunnel systems, but fortunately you and your media didn’t take the reports of such “crazies” serious (that’s good for us and that’s the reason why we allow those people to see us as we really are.) Some of my species are also in direct contact with human scientists and politicians from the surface, but this is top-secret —as you would call it— and nobody of your public knows anything about it (the matter of these meetings is generally the upcoming war with and between the alien species and our assistance in this war). But there is also another explanation, why we can walk among you and why you are not able to recognize us: mimicry.
The following may again sound unbelievable and even shocking to you, but as you have asked I will explain it. I have told you before, that we have more advanced mental abilities than your species and with “more advanced” I mean, that we are able to use telepathy and telekinesis from our birth on (in fact, mother and new-born child communicate generally with telepathy during the first months) without special training as you need it to activate these sleeping parts of your brain. The structure of our brain is a little bit different to yours and our hypothesis is larger and more active than yours – especially when we are in sunlight. Our own abilities are very strong in comparison to yours, but weak in comparison to the “matter-string/bubble” mind forces of some of the alien species on this planet. I was never very good in that mind things, but we all have these primary abilities and can use them for example for our protection or even for attack.
When we are on the surface and we meet human beings (even a large group of them – this makes no difference. All of your minds are like one mind) we are able to “touch” their mind and induce them via telepathy the command “See us as one of your kind” and the weak human mind will accept this order without re-fusion and they will see us (despite our reptilian look) as normal humans. I’ve done this many times and you weak humans generally see me as an attractive brown-haired woman, because I have created this special “mimicry image” in my mind years ago and I can induce it into your minds without problems. I’ve needed some time at the beginning to learn the use of the mimicry correctly, but then it worked nearly automatically and I can even walk among a group of yours and nobody will recognize what I am. There is a simple switch (“See us as we really are / See us as we want you to see us”) in your consciousness which was placed there from the “Illojim” when they created your kind and we can use this switch to convince you that you see humans when you look at us (other aliens use this switch, too). It is easier as you think. When there are meetings between your kind and aliens which seem to look exactly like yours, these aliens have used that switch and some of the meetings with man-like aliens can be also explained with meetings with my kind.) When I met E.F. the first time, he saw me also as a normal human woman and I remember that he was very frightened and shocked when I revealed him my real appearance.
Question: Do you mean, that you can really make me belief that I talk now with an attractive brown-haired human woman instead of a reptilian being like you?
Answer: Probably, but I don’t think so in your special case. When someone expects to see a human woman instead of me, I can do it without problems with his mind (even with large groups) because nobody expects to see a reptile woman. But I have allowed your mind to see me in my original appearance from our first meeting on and I have never induced something into your mind, so you have already realized that I’m not human. If I would now try to change this, it would probably lead to an absolute confusion or to unconsciousness and I don’t want to harm you. As I have said I’m not very good in these things.
Question: That’s very scary. Can you kill with those abilities?
Answer: Yes, but it’s forbidden. This means not that it was not done in previous times.
Question: Have both sexes these abilities?
Answer: Yes.
Question: What about photos? How do you appear on photos?
Answer: This is a silly question. I appear on photos as a reptile being, because I can’t have influence on the photo or on the camera itself but only on the photographers mind. If he or she would develop the film and show the photo to others, they would see me in my original shape. That’s the reason why it is forbidden for our kind to be filmed or photographed and we must avoid every camera on the surface (that is very difficult and we were filmed sometimes in the past without our knowledge, especially from certain of your governments and secret agencies.)
Question: What other commands can your kind induce into our minds? Something like “Serve us” or “Obey”?
Answer: This is again a strange question. We are not your enemy (most of us not) so why should we do this? To answer your question: it depends on the strength of the human mind and on the strength of the sending reptilian. There is no “Serve us” or “Serve me” switch in your mind, so such a command is much more difficult to induce. If the human mind and consciousness is weak and the reptilian inducer is experienced in these things and was some hours in the sun before he or she tries to do it, then it could probably work for a certain time. There are secret teachings about such things, but I’ve never learned anything about it. I use my primary abilities for mimicry and for communication with my own kind and sometimes for other private things, but I’ve never used it to harm humans or their mind. I would appreciate it if we can end with this topic here.
Question: A last question: you’ve said earlier, that you can hide your UFOs? Do you use the same abilities to do this?
Answer: Yes, but on a technical base. There is a powerful device inside each craft which is able to send an artificial signal to your minds to convince you, that you see either nothing but only the sky or that you see normal aircraft like planes instead of our ships. This isn’t used very often, because we avoid human public when we move in the atmosphere. If you are able to see our “UFOs” it means that the device is either defect or deactivated for some reason. The camouflage effect didn’t work on photos – to answer this possible question of you already in advance – but why should someone make a photo of the sky when he could not see anything unusual there. By the way, most of the surface-near entry points to our tunnels are also hidden with such a device and your kind will generally see only normal cave walls instead of the door. That’s one reason why I’ve said that I doubt that you will be able to find such a secret door to our world (but it have happened a few times in the past.)
Question: Back to your and our own history. You’ve mentioned the race of the “Illojim” who have created our human race. From where did they come and how did they look like? What had exactly happened when they arrived? Are they our “God”?
Answer: The “Illojim” came from this universe, from the solar system you call “Aldebaran” in your maps. They were a very tall humanoid species whit usually blonde hairs and a very white skin (they avoided the sunlight, because it hurt their skin and their eyes. This was absolutely unbelievable for a sun-loving species like us). They seemed to be intelligent and peaceful at the beginning and we started a more or less friendly communication with them, but later they showed their real intentions and plans: they wanted to evolve the apes to a new breed and we were a disturbing factor for them on their new zoo planet. At first, they caught around 10,000 or maybe even 20,000 of your simian ancestors and they left the planet for some hundred years. When they returned, they brought your (now more human) ancestors back. Then they left Earth again for some thousands of years and the primitive pre-humans lived together with us without major problems (they were just afraid of our aircraft and technology). The “Illojim” had taught their mind and enhanced their brain and their body structure and they were now able to use tools and fire. The “Illojim” returned within 23,000 years seven times and accelerated the evolution speed of certain of your kind. You must understand that you are not the first human civilization on the planet. The first advanced humans (who lived at the same time with less-developed pre-humans, because the “Illojim” had experimented with different speeds and stages of evolution) with technology and speech existed around 700,000 years ago on this planet (your scientists have not understand this, because they’ve found only the bones of the pre-humans and some primitive cave drawings showing advanced humans and flying devices.) This genetically advanced human breed lived together with us, but they avoided contact with my kind, because the “Illojim” teachers had warned them with misleading purpose that we are evil beings and that we lie to them.
Well, after some centuries the aliens decided to extinct their first creation and they accelerated the evolution of a second and better test series and so on and so on. The truth is that your modern human civilization is not the first on this planet Earth but already the seventh. The buildings of the first breeds are lost, but the fifth civilization was the one, which built the large triangular constructions you call “Egyptian Pyramids” today around 75,000 years ago (your Egyptians just found that large ancient pyramids in the sand and tried not very successful to built similar constructions) and the sixth civilization was the one, which built the cities which ruins you can find today beneath the sea in the so-called Bimini Area around 16,000 years ago. The last creation of the seventh breed – of your series – was done just 8,500 years ago and this is the only creation you can remember and to which your religious writings refer. You rely on archeological and paleonthological artifacts which show you a wrong and short past, but how should you know anything about the six civilizations before. And if you find evidence for their existence, you deny and misinterpret the facts. This is partly a programming of your mind and partly pure ignorance. I will tell you in the following only about your creations, because the six previous mankinds are lost and therefore they should not concern you.
There was a long war between us and the “Illojim” and also between certain groups of the “Illojim” themselves, because many of them were the opinion that the again-and-again creation of human species on this planet makes no real sense. The last battles in this war were fought around 5,000 years ago in orbit and surface. The aliens used powerful sonic weapons to destroy our underground cities but on the other hand we were able to destroy many of their surface installations and bases in space. The humans of your series were very frightened when they observed our battles and they wrote it down in form of religious myths (their mind was not able to understand what was really going on.) The “Illojim” – who appeared as “gods” for the sixth and seventh breed – told them that it is a war between good and evil and that they are the good and we are the evil race. This depends certainly on the point of view. It was our planet before they arrived and before they started their evolution project with your kind. In my opinion, it was our right to fight for our planet. It was exactly 4,943 years ago – according to your time scale – that the Illojim left the planet again for unknown reasons (this is a very important date for us, because many of our historians called it a victory.) Fact is that we don’t know what had really happened. The “Illojim” were gone from one day to another, they vanished without a trace together with their ships and we found most of their surface installations destroyed by them. The humans were on their own and your civilization developed. Many of us were in contact with certain (more southern) tribes of your species in the coming centuries and we were able to convince some of them that we are not the “Evil” the aliens wanted them to believe. During the time from 4,900 years ago to today, many other alien species arrived the planet (some of them used the old teaching and programming of your mind and “played” again God for you) but the “Illojim” themselves never came back. They had left the planet for a duration of some thousand years also earlier, so we expect their return one day in future to end their project or to maybe extinct also the seventh breed, but we don’t really know what have happened to them (to answer this question of you in advance).
Your current civilization doesn’t know anything about your real origin, about your real past, about your real world and universe and you know very little about us and our past. And you know nothing about the things to come in near future. As long as you will not understand and believe my words – I tell you the truth because we are not your enemy – as long there is danger for your species. Your enemies are already here and you have not understood. Open your eyes or you will be in big trouble soon. If you haven’t believed anything of the things I’ve told you before, then you should really believe and remember this.
Question: Why do you think I don’t believe you?
Answer: I have a certain feeling that you don’t believe me, despite the fact that I’m sitting here in front of you. Everything I have told you in the last two hours is the absolute truth about our world.
Question: How many alien species are active on earth at the moment?
Answer: As far as we know 14 species. 11 from this universe, 2 from another “bubble” and 1 very advanced from a very different plain. Don’t ask me for names, because nearly all are not pronounceable for you, eight of them are not pronounceable even for us. Most of the species – especially the more advanced – are just studying you as animals and they are not very dangerous for you and for us and we work together with some of them, but three species are hostile, including the one which was in contact with some of your governments and exchanged their technology for copper and other important things and which had betrayed your kind. There was and is a “cold war” between two of these hostile races during the last 73 years and the third species seemed to be the “winner” in this useless struggle. We expect a more “hot” war between them and you in the near future (I would say in the next 10 or 20 years) and we are worried about that development. In the last time, there were some rumors about a new, fifteenth species which had arrived on Earth just 3 or 4 years ago, but we don’t know anything about their intentions and we were not in contact with them till now. Maybe the rumors are wrong.
Question: What do the hostile alien races want?
Answer: Various raw materials, including copper for their technology, your water (or better the hydrogen in your water, which is a source of energy in advanced fusion processes) and certain chemical elements in your air. Furthermore, two of the species are also interested in your body, in your human tissue and blood, because their own genetic structure is defect through bad evolution and radiation (as far as we know) and they need intact strings from your kind and from animals to repair their own genetic again and again, but they are not really able to repair the defects completely because their DNA and your DNA is not fully compatible (my own species is absolutely incompatible with them, so they are not very interested in us) and they try to make more compatible crossbreeds between you and them by use of artificial fertilizations and artificial wombs. We suppose that the coming war between the three races or between you and one or all of them will be fought for raw material, hydrogen, air and DNA.
Question: Is this the reason for the “abductions”?
Answer: Partly, especially when the aliens took egg and sperm samples from you. Sometimes the abductors belong to another and more advanced race and they just want to study your body and your mind (which is more interesting for some of them than your solid body) as you would study a primitive animal. As I have said, three alien species are hostile and this means that they do not care for your fate or for your life and people who were “abducted” by them came very rarely back alive. If someone is able to report about an abduction, it means in my opinion that he or she has not met one of the aggressive species or that he or she is a very, very lucky human to be alive. Advanced and “friendly” races also took sometimes egg and sperm samples, but for other reasons.
Question: You’ve said there are only 14 species active on earth. But why describe people who saw alien beings so many different and bizarre types of them?
Answer: I think I have already answered to this question. As I have said, most of the alien races have much more advanced mind abilities than you or even me (there is just one alien race completely without such abilities). They are able to appear in your mind and memory as whatever they want and this induced “image” has nothing to do with their real appearance. You remember them as normal humans or grey dwarfs or even extremely bizarre animals because they want you to remember that or sometimes they want you to completely forget anything about a meeting with them. Another example: you can for example remember that you were just in a normal of your human hospitals and that some doctors were examining you and you think not further about what have happened to you (maybe till you discover that there is no hospital in the street were you supposed it) but in fact you were examined by them in one of their laboratories. You can’t rely on your mind in this case. They appear in different shapes to you to confuse you and to make so-called abduction witnesses who were able to remember the events – or who believe they are able to remember – ridiculous in the public and as far as we know, they are successful. Believe me, there are only 14 alien species on this planet and only eight of them abduct humans at the moment (again as far as we know.) In addition, not everyone of your “abductees” is one and some of the aliens in their reports are really just imagination or lies.
Answer: How can we protect us against this influence on our mind?
Question: I don’t know. I doubt you can, because your mind is like an open book to read and write for nearly every species I know. This is partly the guilty of the “Illojim” themselves, because they had constructed or better mis-constructed (partly intentionally) your mind and your consciousness without real protection mechanisms. If you are aware that someone tries to manipulate your mind, you can only concentrate on that suspicion and try to analyze every one of your thoughts and memories. Very important: don’t close your eyes (this would lead to a different form of brain waves which are more easy to access) and don’t sit or lay down to rest. If you stay awake during the first minutes, you can maybe try to filter the other thoughts and waves in your brain and the inducer will give up after some minutes if he or she is not successful because it will start to hurt his or her own brain. This is very difficult and certainly painful and it can harm you, so better don’t try to resist but it would be the only possibility you have. However, you can try this only with the more weaker species, not with the strong.
Question: What do you mean with “one species comes from a very different plain”?
Answer: Before I can explain that correctly to you, you must be able to understand the universe and this would mean a maybe useless teaching of your mind (including the remove of some barriers) of many weeks and with teaching I mean not only teaching by words. I have said this with your word “plain” or “level” because you have again no better word in your vocabulary and dimension would be in this case absolutely wrong (it’s rather wrong even for another “bubble”) because a dimension can’t exist without plains. If you would be a species living in another or over the plain and if you would be furthermore able to enter plains without technology so that your body is not made of that kind of matter you know, then you would be the mightiest being you can imagine. This very advanced race I’ve mentioned had developed outside of here and they’ve evolved in fact over billions of years. They would be able to destroy all of you and us and everything with just a single thought. We were in contact with them only 3 times in our whole history, because their interest in your planet is different from that of all other races. They are definitely no danger for you or us.
Question: What will happen when the war begins?
Answer: This is difficult to answer. It depends on the enemy race and on their tactic. “War” is not always that primitive thing you humans mean with the word, “War” can be fought on various levels. One possibility they have is the “destruction” of your social system by influence on political leaders, another is the use of advanced weapon systems which can cause earthquakes or volcanic eruptions or other disasters (including weather disasters) which may seem natural to you. The special fields from copper-fusion I’ve mentioned earlier are able to have an influence on your global weather. I think they will not attack the planet directly before the human civilization is weak, because even you have possibilities to destroy their craft (but not many.) Let me say, that we are not absolutely sure if there will be really such a “hot” war already in the next years. I don’t want to talk further about this.
Question: This is the end of the interview. Do you want to say a last sentence or message?
Answer: Open your eyes and see. Don’t believe only in your wrong history or your scientists or your politicians. Some of them know the truth about various things, but they don’t inform the public to avoid confusion and panic. I think your species is not as bad as some of my kind thinks and it would be a pity to observe your end. That’s everything I can say. Go through your world with open eyes and you will see – or maybe not. Your kind is ignorant.
Question: Do you think anyone will believe that this interview is the truth?
Answer: No, but it is an interesting experiment for my social studies. We will meet again in some months and you will tell me then what have happened after the publication of my message. Maybe there is hope for your kind.
I once again reaffirm that the following text is the absolute truth and is not fiction. It was composed from three original tape recordings which were made on April 24, 2000 with a tape recorder during my second interview with the reptilian creature known as “Lacerta”. At Lacerta’s request, the original text of 31 pages was revised and shortened up to deal with some questions and answers. Some existing questions were partially shortened or amended. It was even undertaken to extract message and significance from it. This part of the interview, either not mentioned or not mentioned completely in the transcript, deals primarily with personal issues, paranormal demonstrations, the social system of the reptilian species and alien technology and physics.
The reason for the shifting of the date and time of the second meeting was a possible observation and surveillance of my own person after the publication of the first transcript. Although everything was attempted on the advice of Lacerta to keep my identity a secret, just two days after the dissemination of the document abroad, and various unusual events took place. Please don’t think that I am paranoid; however, I believe that the publication of the interview has drawn either official attention or the attention of some organization to me. Up until this time, I usually regarded people who believed that they were being followed by the state to be nothing more than jokers. But now I have begun to revise my ideas on that since events in January. It began with a failure of my telephone for several hours. When the phone became operational once again, there were quiet echoes and strange clicking and whirring sounds when I made calls. A defect could (ostensibly) not be found anywhere. Overnight, important data disappeared from the hard drive in my computer. The testing program reported “defective sectors” where strangely enough there were only data which dealt with illustrations and completed textual material from the interview. These “defective sectors” also contained material of a paranormal nature in the field of my research. (Fortunately, the material was also stored on floppies.) In addition I discovered by pure chance some hidden data in a likewise hidden directory index. The name which appeared on the data and the directory index was “E72UJ.” A friend, who is a computer expert, could not make anything of this designation, and when I was about to show it to him, the directory index had disappeared. One evening, my apartment door was standing wide open, my TV set was running —and I am absolutely confident that I had turned the TV set off.
A minivan with British markings and the imprint of a Europe-wide supermarket chain parked in front of my house. I noticed the same minivan again on several occasions traveling at a distance behind my car, even when I visited the town of …… 65 kilometers away. When I returned, the car was on the other side of the street once again. I never saw anyone get into or out of the car. A knock on the door of the vehicle and on the tinted windows caused no reaction of any kind. After about two weeks, the minivan disappeared again. When I informed E.F. personally about these events, he suggested that I change the place and date of the meeting in order to assure our own and Lacerta’s safety. The meeting took place on April 27, 2000 in another isolated location. It was unobserved as far as I can determine.
Once again, all of this may sound strange and paranoid, like a fantasy from a cheap science fiction film; however, I can only repeat to and assure the reader once again: all of this is the unadulterated truth. Believe my words or don’t believe them. These things have happened and they will continue to happen, whether you believe it or not. Until it is too late. Our civilization is in danger.
Ole. K. – May 3, 2000
Transcript of the Interview (Shortened Version)
Date of Interview: April 27, 2000
[Comment by Ole. K.: The meeting began with an appraisal of diverse questions and opinions which I had gotten from readers of the first transcript in anonymous fashion through distribution from my trustworthy friends. Some of these opinions—all together there were over 14 pages of paper—contained comments shaped by everything from a radically religious to a fanatical tendency to welcome contact with a reptilian species. Some of these comments contained stereotypical phrases like “Servants of Hell” or “Species of the Evil One”. I don’t want to go into any kind of detailed description here since I don’t want pass on further any false and radical realm of thought.]
Question: When you read these religious and animosity-ridden comments here, what do you think and feel then? Is the relationship between your species and ours really shaped from that kind of total negation?
Answer: Does it amaze you that I am not completely angered by that? I had fully expected those kinds of extreme reactions. The programming for the utter negation of another species (especially the reptilian species) as in your own case is deeply embedded in each of your own individual consciousnesses. This ancient conditioning stems from the days of your third artificial creation and, biologically speaking, is passed down as an information genome from generation to generation. The identification of my species with the powers of darkness was a primary intention of the Illojim, who liked seeing themselves in the role of the powers of light —something which in and of itself represents a paradox, since that humanoid species was extremely sensitive to your sunlight. In case you were expecting me to act offended, I guess I’ll have to partially disappoint you. These obscure intentions are not really your fault; you are simply following for the most part what you have inherited from your ancestors. It is indeed actually somewhat disappointing that many of you develop no especially strong individual self-conscience, for this would help you to overcome the conditioning. As I already said, we were in direct contact in the last several centuries with some of your more primitive human tribes; these tribes had themselves succeeded in breaking through the old “creation programming;” they were able to meet us without tension, hate and total rejection. Apparently many of your modern civilized individuals are not in a position to think on their own, but rather let themselves be guided by programming and religion (which is also a manifestation of that ancient programming and part and parcel of the plan of the Illojim). Therefore, comments of that kind I’d sooner regard as amusing than irritating; they simply confirm in large measure for me my suppositions about your defined mode of thinking.
Question: Therefore, you are not the “Species of the Evil One” as was remarked earlier?
Answer: How am I supposed to answer that? Your people still think according to a simple and completely inappropriate scheme of generalizations. Simply put, there are absolutely NO purely evil species. There exist in every terrestrial and extraterrestrial species alike both good and evil individuals; it’s even true of your own people; but there is NO such thing as an absolutely evil species. This conception is really very primitive. You people have believed from time immemorial what you are supposed to believe—what was foreseen for you to believe by your creators. Every well-known species, even the more highly developed ones, consists of a great number of individual consciousnesses (at least a portion of the consciousness is individual, even though there are connecting fields of consciousness); these self-sufficient spirits are able to decide freely for themselves a lifestyle which is either good or evil, according to your own human standards. It depends again on the respective point of view; your people are not necessarily in a position to judge whether the deeds of a much more highly developed species are good or evil, because you stand at a lower observation point, from which an assessment is not possible. Your simple words “good” and “evil” are in any case examples of a tendency towards generalization; in my language there are many concepts for the various shades of meaning of individual behaviors in comparison to the norms of a society.
Even those extraterrestrial species which are inclined to act with antagonism towards you are not “Species of the Evil One,” even though they operate negatively with respect to your own race. They do this for their own reasons and do not regard themselves as evil; were your structured way of thinking more linear and more focused as theirs is, then you would also behave in such a fashion. The attitude of a species towards other kinds of existence naturally depends very heavily on its respective structured way of thinking; each species sets its own priorities. To classify that as “good” or “evil” is really quite primitive, for the survival of any species argues for many varieties, among them your own, as well as for even the most varied of the worst or negatively-directed deeds. I won’t even exclude my own kind in this regard, for there have been certain occurrences in the past which I don’t personally welcome, but about which I would also not like to go into detail. None of these occurrences have happened in the last 200 years of your time scale. But please note the following: there are NO absolutely good and there are NO absolutely bad species, because each and every species always consists of individuals.
Question: In the letters that I got, there was often the question, whether you could go into any greater detail regarding the advanced physics that you commented on last time. Many people said, your words made no sense. For example, how do UFOs function, how do they fly, how do they perform the maneuvers that they do?
Answer: I ought to explain that to people? That’s not all that simple. Let me think about it for a minute. I always have to use very simple words in order to make clear to you the basic principles of a higher kind of science. Let’s try this: You have to be clear about some fundamental facts. The very first thing is that you must divide up the conception of the physical world because each existence consists of different layers; let’s say for simplicity’s sake that it consists of a material illusion and a sphere of influence. {TRANSLATOR’S NOTE: No legitimate translation exists for this word ‘Feldraum’; “Feld” means “field,” “Raum” means “space, room, expanse.” Therefore, I’m translating it as “sphere of influence.”} Certain physical conditions are associated only with the realm of the material {as in ‘concrete’}, while other and more complicated conditions are associated only with the sphere of influence of the material world. Your conception of the physical world is based upon a simple material illusion. That illusion is further subdivided into three elementary or basic conditions of matter. A fourth and very important condition also exists, which you simply pay attention to more or less as you choose; it is the one bordering on the sphere of influence or plasma realm. For you, the theory for a controlled transformation or an elevation of the frequency of matter and the stable existence of this fourth aggregate condition of matter is not very common, or it exists at a very primitive level. (As an aside, there are simply five states of matter, but the post-plasma state would really be going too far and it would only serve to confuse you. Besides, it is not necessary for an understanding of the basic theory; it is connected with diverse phenomena which you would characterize as paranormal.) Now, back to the essentials: Plasma…now, with plasma I don’t mean just “hot gas”—as the concept is generally simplified by your people—but rather I mean a higher aggregate condition of matter. The plasma state of matter is a special form of matter which lies between its real existence and the sphere of influence, that is, a complete loss of mass and pure accretion of energy of various form whenever matter is “pushed or shoved.” {NOTE: No explanation was given for the use of the word “pushed, shoved” as used in this context. Your guess is as good mine.}
The fourth state of matter is very important for certain physical conditions which can be used for example to…how should I express this to you…generate antigravity. (That’s a rather strange human word and not really correct, but you ought to understand it better this way.) Essentially, in the world of real physics, there are no bipolar forces, but rather only “observer dependent reflective behavior” of a single, large unified force at different levels. With antigravity or the displacement of gravitational characteristics into levels, one can, for example, cause apparently solid matter to levitate; this method is employed partly by us and by extraterrestrials as well as a means of propulsion for their UFOs. You people are moving on a really primitive level towards a similar principle for your secret military projects, but since you have more or less stolen this technology (and it was later falsely passed on to you intentionally by the extraterrestrials), you lack the real physical understanding; as a result, you have to struggle with problems of instability and radiation with your “UFOs”. According to my information, there have been a great number of deaths of your people because of intense radiation and field disturbances. Don’t you agree, this is also an example of the business regarding the question of “good” and “evil”? You people play with unknown forces and thereby accept the death of colleagues of your own kind, for they are dying for a greater cause, namely, for the advancement of your technology, which as a result is being put into place once again for the purpose of war, i.e., for negative pursuits. Now, one can give you the benefit of the doubt, that only the least number of your kind have any knowledge about these alien projects which are —as you explain it— top secret. It was told to you that the higher the ordinal or ranking number of basic matter, the simpler the heightening of the condition, but that is only partially correct. If you can’t circumvent these powers, then you’re better off not attempting it. But your kind has always been ignorant and has from time immemorial tried to play around with forces which you have not even understood. Why would that ever change?
You remember this business of copper fusion? By means of the fluctuation at the right angle with the induced radiation field, copper is fused with other elements. (The illusion of matter is fused, the fields in the sphere of influence overlap each other, but the main force would be reflected by that process and would assume a quasi-bipolar character.) The resulting connection and the field would therefore not be stable in the normal condition of matter and unsuited for tasks. As a result, the entire field spectrum is shifted to a higher plasma-like condition, whereby the spectrum comes together with this harsh shifting to the opposite pole side —the word is NOT correct— of the force field and it resembles quite closely a gravitational shift. This shifting causes a “tilting” of the repulsing quasi-bipolar force, which now no longer flows to the interior of the force field, but rather flows partly to the exterior of the field. The result is an inter-stratifying reflective force field which is very difficult to modulate within certain technical boundaries in relation to its own characteristics. It can also carry out a multiplicity of tasks, as for example, causing massive flying objects to be levitated and maneuvered. It can also exert a camouflage function in the realm of electromagnetic radiation as well as manipulate temporal sequences of events—indeed only to very limited extent—and other things as well. Are you familiar with your “quantum tunnel effect”? Even the amplitude equalizations among genuine matter can be achieved with one of those kinds of fields if the frequency and the distance from the plane of the field are high enough. Unfortunately, the whole thing that I have explained to you in your words has come out to be rather primitive, I’m afraid. It sounds rather strange and certainly impossible for your comprehension, but perhaps this simple explanation can be of some use to you in helping you to understand. But then again, maybe not.
Question: Is there a scientific substantiation for paranormal powers, as for example with your powers of thought?
Answer: Yes. In order to explain that, one has to acknowledge the physical reality of the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. I’ll try to do it…wait just a second…you are going to have to separate yourself mentally from the illusion that that which you see is the true nature of the universe. It is, at best, the surface of a side. Imagine for yourself that all the matter here —you, this table, this pencil, this technical device, this paper— does not really exist, but that it is rather only the result of a field oscillation and a concentration of energy. All matter that you see, every creature, every planet and star in this universe, has an “information-energy equivalent” in the sphere of influence which is located on a main field —the general level {of things}. Now, there is not only one level, but several. Last time, I had mentioned that highly-developed species which is capable of changing levels (which is something completely different from the simple bubble changing, for bubbles are a part of each and every level). Do you understand? Dimensions, as you call them, are a part of a solitary bubble, bubbles or universal foam are a part of a level, and levels are layers in the sphere of influence, while the sphere of influence, acting in the capacity of single physical size, is essentially unending; it is composed of innumerable information-energy layers and general levels. There are in the sphere of influence no null-levels; all are the same, but they are separated by means of their energy conditions. I notice that I am confusing you now. I think I ought to stop with this explanation.
Question: No, please continue. How do concrete paranormal powers arise?
Answer: Well, OK then. Let’s try something simpler. Again, it is not completely correct, but let’s begin in this manner: Tangible matter on this side is mirrored in the sphere of influence {Feldraum} as a field with distinct layers. These layers contain information, as an example, about the simple structure of matter or the string frequency, but also there is stored information stemming from the development of matter. Are you familiar with the human concept of “morphogenetic fields?” One part of the layer could be designated as such. Now there is still another intermediary layer for which you unfortunately have no human concept, since the theory is not common in human thinking. Let’s call it a “para-layer,” for this layer is mainly responsible for everything which you call PSI and paranormal and which lies outside the boundaries of your primitive science. This para-layer lies between the layers of matter and the morphogenetic layers of a field in the sphere of influence. It can actively integrate with both. Your body, for example, is mirrored as a field in the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. That doesn’t mean that it does not also exist here as well —as flesh, blood, bones— in the form of matter strings or atoms, but not only that. Existence is always a duality. Some layers of the field contain simple information about the solid matter of your body and its frequency, while other layers {contain information about} your spirit, your consciousness or, speaking from a human-religious point of view, your soul. Awareness or consciousness in this case is a simple energy matrix, divided into different layers of your field in the sphere of influence —nothing more, nothing less. Genuine awareness can also exist here on the matter side, but only in the form of post-plasma {the fifth form of matter}. With the necessary physical knowledge and the corresponding technology, the consciousness/awareness matrix, or soul, can also be separated from its field of rest. It can, despite its removal, continue to exist in a self-sufficient manner for a certain amount of time. That has the strange occult name of “soul robbing.” But above all, we’re talking about science here, not about magic or dark forces.
[Comment by Ole. K.: The “soul robbing” was mentioned in one of the radical, religiously-motivated comments in connection with the reptilian species.]
But back to your Question: Creatures with more powerful mental powers can have a direct influence on the para-layer by means of their consciousness/awareness fields. Now this layer is not limited only to the individual, but rather as a part of a general information layer —you could call it in a prosaic sense the community soul— that is connected with all animate and inanimate matter and all consciousness which exist on this main level. The biological cause for these abilities lies on the side of matter, by the way, in the pituitary gland, which always is in the position to generate the frequencies to actively control the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. Even you people could theoretically do this; however, you are solidly blocked in these things. As I have said, the para-layer can interact with mind as well as with matter. For example, if I decide to use my mental powers once more in order to move this pencil, then, simply said, I imagine in my mind how my consciousness/awareness expands/amplifies itself on the matter side in the form of post-plasma to the pencil. In the sphere of influence this causes simultaneously an automatic command from the consciousness/awareness layer to the para-layer to interact with the matter layer of the pencil. Since the para-layer is not confined to the body, it is not even a problem that the pencil lies over there, for I can unerringly reach it, even without moving my matter body. Post-Plasma on this side, para-layer on the other. I have control over the pencil and the interaction brings the matter field of the pencil to the point where it changes in the manner in which it moves, for example.
[Comment by Ole K.: I certify that the pencil mentioned above abruptly at that very moment jumped into the air to a height of 20 cm and then fell back to the surface of the table. The sound is clearly heard on the recording tape. No one visibly had touched that pencil.]
Question: That is fascinating. Which kinds of paranormal activities can one generate with that?
Answer: All kinds. Everything that you call paranormal. As I said, this special layer lies in the sphere of influence {Feldraum} between the morphogenetic information layers and the matter layers and can interact with respect to both sides. That is to say, it can be interacted with solid matter as well as with mind or mental information, wherewith we can achieve everything that is generally designated as telekinesis and telepathy. The “connection absorption” with another consciousness/awareness is generally separate in the procedure from the simple influence of matter, since different consciousness/awareness fields work with different oscillations. A consciousness/awareness that sends or a consciousness/awareness that listens must first adapt itself to the other mind exactly, before any access is possible. Most species also have chances to block the alien access, but you people don’t have this. The following is generally valid: the stronger the paranormal abilities of a species, the simpler the adaptation and the access. Our own abilities are not so powerfully developed; therefore, first we have to learn specifically alien mind influence in order to use our mimicry, for example—where mimicry is actually quite simple in your minds due to the implanting of the on/off switch. Some of these abilities are also partially inherited; mother and child of my kind as an example are attuned exactly during the first months of life —partially also in the egg covering in the expectant mother— and communicate telepathically. In order to influence you people, we need a certain amount of time for practicing, despite your simple structure. Therefore, it is forbidden, for example, for adults of my kind before the “Age of Enlightenment” to come to the surface of the Earth. (That term is synonymous, along with other things, with full physical strength.) In the case of not fully developed abilities, the danger of discovery by you would be too great. By the way, there are of course numerous secret teachings about the real possibilities which can give one these abilities, but I really don’t know anything exact about that.
Whenever an alien mind ought to be influenced, then there are some generally valid steps, which are set into motion by other extraterrestrial species. First and foremost, the alien oscillation must be felt, something generally that is done automatically by the brain, i.e., for the one the field oscillation, for the other the quasi-electrical brain waves here in the normal space {which matter inhabits}. That is not especially difficult. After that, one simply probes for the other consciousness/awareness in the mind with a post-plasma manifestation, the sphere of influence {Feldraum} reacts and the connection is there. Now one can read out information from the first one and record the desired information to the second one in the correct location. You asked me last time whether you people have the opportunity to protect yourselves against this influence, and I told you that only an awake and concentrated mind had any kind of a chance to withstand it. In this state of mind the oscillations change very abruptly and access becomes complicated; more precisely, it can come as a painful recoil. Whenever you close your eyes, then the field becomes “flat,” and alien access {to the mind} is immediately possible and without restriction. In terms of your chances against a more highly developed species, you have none at all. They are able to adjust the oscillations faster than you can change. I could even demonstrate it on you, but you were really horrified and confused the last time, so we’ll just leave it at an explanation.
This explanation presumably sounds to you like —as you say— something esoteric or from the occult or magic. The reason for that is simply that you lack the basic understanding for seeing the background reasons. All paranormal phenomena have a purely scientific origination. None of this has anything to do with supernatural powers. We grow up with this kind of knowledge, we know how one makes use of these powers, and where they come from. We are acquainted with theory and practice. You are not. Therefore, you really don’t understand what happens in your world—you see only one side of existence, not the other (I mean here both that are physical). Everything paranormal is dualistic, and it exists in the space that matter inhabits as well as in the sphere of influence {Feldraum}. To be explained…it can only be explained by the acceptance of the latter, because the sphere of influence {Feldraum} is the basis. I would welcome an end to the scientific questions since you really aren’t grasping them anyway. We’re wasting more or less valuable time by doing this.
Question: Only one last question. At our first meeting in December, you made it quite clear that you didn’t want to discuss scientific and paranormal concerns. Why the openness now?
Answer: The last time I saw really no necessity in overburdening you with facts of that kind (and now you are obviously overburdened). Therefore, I had preferred only to mention these topics in a peripheral sense. Apparently, however, some of my performances today have set you to thinking about your world, something that can’t be all bad. And by the way, your human scientists will tend to regard my comments as “humbug.” And so I see no great danger in spreading this information widely. No one will pay much attention to it. By the way, the words of people who have characterized me as a “Creature of Evil” have their basis in the belief in occult powers and magic —both of which things DO NOT exist. There is no magic, only highly developed science, and everything that you label as “magic” is only a part of science. If you would only comprehend that, then you would be a step ahead in your development. My openness on this issue ends here. Pose other questions, please.
Question: Good. Let’s talk about UFOs. Can you explain to me how our governments came into possession of UFO material to the point that they could start their own projects? Did it have anything to do with the “Roswell Incident?”
Answer: Yes, but that incident was not the first one. I am no historian, I am studying only your current behavior, so my knowledge about those events in your history is presumably not very extensive. I will try to explain to you what I know about those things which happened at that time. Let me think about it for a second. In the years 1946 to 1953 in your time scale, there were five cases where extraterrestrial ships crashed to the surface of the Earth. In that crash which you call the “Roswell Incident,” there was not only one alien ship involved, but two that crashed after a collision in different parts of the land in the west—the one you call the USA. (You have to know that the ships of this particular species can remain levitating in the air for a particular period of time even though they are damaged; that accounts for the spatial difference {in their crash locations}.) These were indeed not the first crashes, but by that time the second and the third. Another ship had crashed in 1946, but it was destroyed beyond usability.
One thing first before the explanation: it certainly sounds ridiculous to you that such highly developed extraterrestrial ships simply crash, and that a relatively large number did so in a relatively short amount of time. The explanation for that is likewise more than strange, but it is correct. It does not lie in the ship’s drive itself, but rather in the direction of the field to your planet. This species that we are discussing —and it was always in this time period that this species used a disk-shaped craft— used a propulsion system which ran according to the normal principle of fusion, to be sure, but one that at that time employed a more than unconventional method for field alignment. This method had various advantages but also disadvantages. The repelling field must of course lie in the absolute correct angle to the surface of the Earth. This species used an alignment technology in their ships, with which the field locked into place all points of the Earth’s magnetic field. Now at that time this species had just arrived on the earth and their point of origin lay on a planet with a more stable magnetic field, for which they had developed and aligned their drive. The magnetic field of the Earth is not really all that stable; it is subject to cyclical variations and it forms field eddies under unfavorable conditions. Whenever a ship with one of those kinds of drives gets into a field fluctuation or into an eddy that is too strong, then for a short time the repelling field can no longer align itself correctly and the ship glides uncontrolled on its flight path. The drive is operating correctly, to be sure, but the field fluctuates in all directions and because of that, the ship can crash. In the case from 1947 which you addressed, it is my understanding that one of the ships got caught in a fluctuation, its field linked up unintentionally with that of its squadron leader and it collided with another ship whereby both of them were heavily damaged. The cause for the magnetic fluctuation at that time was probably an electrical disturbance brought about by a weather event. Both ships crashed as a result; one of them fell near the collision point, the other a hundred of your kilometers or so distant. All occupants were killed in the impact. The thin hull structure of that kind of disk craft is in and of itself not very stable, since those disks have not been designed for crashes as well as for flight in a field where there are exterior forces at work.
Now, your human military collected the individual pieces at first until they discovered the whole ships with the dead creatures aboard. Immediately they classified everything as “Top Secret” and brought them to their military bases in order to analyze the drive. The secret endeavor was to set the alien technology in place later against evil enemies of that great country. That is as primitive as it is ridiculous. I believe I remember—I don’t want to specify exactly your date—that it was probably between 1949 and 1952 that there was a rather bad accident during some research being done on one of the wrecks. According to what I heard—what members of my species were told by members of that government—it resulted in an unintentional activation of one of the drive’s components in the unshielded condition. As a result, for a very short period of time—how should I phrase this—there was an unchecked shift of the environment to a plasma-like condition, which on the other hand, through a very, very unfortunate accident, caused an overturning of the general power field into a magnetic pulse of immense power. Do you have any idea what kind of an effect a plasma-magnetic jolt has, when it comes into contact with an organism? No, how should you know that. Of course you don’t. Disturbance in the structure of the field and bioelectric feedback. Imagine, if you will, a human body which is engulfed in bright flames for 3 or 4 of your days. Those flames apparently do not go out and they burn the body right down to its last constituents. Well, then you have an approximate impression of what happened. I think that 20 or 30 of your scientists were killed in that lab.
Two further crashes occurred in 1950 and 1953 in the water catchment area of the American continent. Those ships were able to be recovered from the crashes relatively intact. (The one in 1953, as I remember, even had an intact drive core. It was by means of that device that you saw for the first time that you had understood the entire concept fully incorrectly and that you had reconstructed it fully incorrectly. Even today you still don’t have it right.) That species, which had built the ships in the first place —a species which I, by the way, count among those who are unfriendly towards you— was naturally worried about the investigation of their own technology by your kind. They did not want, however, at that early point in time, to begin direct conflict with you, and so they chose the diplomatic path and came into contact with that government during your 1960’s. Of course, they did not divulge the real reasons for their being here —copper, hydrogen, air— but rather they pretended to be curious “researchers” and offered to show people the functioning principle of the ships whereby they would expect in return some “favors.” Simple-minded as you are, you of course agreed to it…and were deceived. You gave them raw materials, you gave them secured locations for their bases, you gave them access to your most secret defense data, you gave them access to your DNA and much more—and all just to quench your greed for power and information. The alien species of course quickly noticed that they were dealing with simple-minded creatures, and they gave you false and inferior information about their technology so that they receive much more out of the collaboration than your kind do. For example, they gave you information that the drive can only be constructed with unstable elements of a higher ranking number, but they withheld the information that the field drive can be constructed with various modifications to work as well with stable elements of a lower periodic number, and generally, that’s the way it’s done. Through these half truths they made you dependent on the synthesizing of high {numbered} elements, and thereby renewed by their own technology. Their clues to the construction of your “UFOs” were laid out in such a way that the solution to old problems caused new problems to arise simultaneously. They never told you the complete truth, but always built in again and again clever lies, which later lead to technical problems —and to your dependence on them.
In the last years of your 1970’s and your early 1980’s, it finally came down to various events between the alien species and that human government —I don’t want to go into detail here since there is much that even I am not exactly sure of. The whole thing lay in the context with some new, or better said, the old technical problems with your own self-constructed ships whose camouflage and drive partially failed to function in test flights in the open. Because of that, the function of secrecy was threatened. Your military and your politicians slowly—very slowly—came to the conclusion after more than 20 years of this that they had been deceived by that alien species. Multitudinous incongruities and the overstepping of bounds of the treaties by both sides finally led to an altercation between you and the extraterrestrials, which culminated in the lift-off of three of the alien aerial objects through a special —how do you say it?— EMP {electromagnetic pulse} weapon and a military skirmish at one of their underground installations. As a consequence of these attacks, the alien species ultimately withdrew from all contact with you and was understandably more than angered about your kind. Therefore, I count these extraterrestrials among the three groups who are hostile towards you, and while the other two are more occupied with their own business, among them waging a cold war for dominance on your planet, your old “friends” and partners are preparing to supply themselves finally with the sole and absolute dominance over raw materials and human DNA. At the moment it is probably true that they lack some of the technical possibilities and the large amount of forces which they need in order to achieve their goals directly. In spite of that, we are counting on negative actions —possibly ever of a more subtle kind— against you in the next few years or decades.
Question: Will the other extraterrestrial species undertake nothing against these war-like actions? Specifically, something ought to be on Earth for the more highly developed species.
Answer: You’re wrong there. Specifically, for the more highly developed species there is simply at the very least your fate. You are animals for them. Animals in a very large lab. Understandably, an alien intervention on your planet would disturb their projects, but I don’t think that they accept a confrontation with other species for it. Many of them could look for another research planet for themselves or they could study over a long distance your behavior and your consciousness/awareness, since crisis situations could have an attraction for their studies. Whenever you people take a look at an ant hill, and another person comes along and steps on the ant hill, what do you do? You go on your way, or you search for another ant hill or you observe the ants in their crisis condition. But would one of you —even though he were larger and more powerful than the one who stepped on the ant hill in the first place— defend the meaningless ants? No. You have to imagine for yourself the viewpoint of the more highly advanced creatures. You are the ants. Don’t expect any help from them.
Of course we would also ask for help when it became clear that your old partners were ganging up on you. Some members of that human government are fully aware of our existence —also partially owing to an old religious basis. For example, there is a gigantic partially underground building in the capital which is totally dedicated to my species and that also has a direct approach to an elevator shaft and to an underground system. In this building partial meetings have taken place and do take place between us and humans. We have passed on information to you in the last few years; according to what I know, we will keep ourselves as far away from the conflict as we can. You ought to learn to solve your own problems yourselves or to become intelligent enough never to create those kinds of situations. What will come and who will possibly place themselves on your side, only time will tell. I really do not want to make any indications about that.
Question: I have here 5 prints of different UFOs, which claim to show UFOs. Can you take a look at the pictures and tell me in which of them actual extraterrestrial aerial craft can be seen?
Answer: I can try it. You pose many questions to me today which even I cannot answer unequivocally. Don’t overestimate my knowledge, I’m no expert in alien technology and the construction of extraterrestrial ships. To be sure, there are mostly some technical details and peculiarities about genuine “UFOs,” with whose help one can easily differentiate them from natural phenomena or human forgeries. You falsify sometimes the pattern of genuine ships; therefore, it is not so easy simply with absolute certainty to identify an object. I’ll try it. Show me the photos.
[Comment by Ole K.: She considered the pictures respectively for only a couple of seconds and then sorted out photos 1, 3 and 5.]
These three pictures here are obvious counterfeits or erroneous identifications. In the one picture, it certainly seems to me that a real existing ship of an alien species was adapted for a small model here. It lacks important characteristics which are tied in with the technically- and physically-associated field. Generally speaking, a picture is all the more a fake, the clearer the outline and the colors are, because a levitating ship is generally hidden in a shifted-field condition that even distorts the colors or the forms according to alignment. It might perhaps sound strange, but hazy and spectrally-shifted photos are sometimes to be interpreted as an indication for a possibly authenticity. By the way, this object is floating above the water. If it were a genuine ship, we would have to see in any case either a trough or a swell on the surface. Since the surface is flat, it is obviously not a genuine ship. In my opinion, none of these three pictures show genuine objects in flight or UFOs. Here in this picture I see above all no artificial object in flight; it seems much more to deal with only a light reflex in your simple optical cameras. You really ought to be intelligent enough not to fall for a mix-up like that. When your general public chases counterfeits and frauds for a long time, then they will presumably discover too late, what is really going on in front of them in their atmosphere.
PHOTO 2: Albiosc, France, 1974
This one seems to be genuine, at least it displays the necessary characteristics. I would assign it at first glance to an alien species who have been visiting your planet for the last 35 years or so. The object itself is metallic and disk-shaped; certainly it is distorted in form and color by means of a field effect. These four white and very long “processes” on the underside of the ship itself portray a kind of quasi-gravitational light manipulation, i.e., the universal force field is being shifted in the direction of a simulated gravity. Actually, it is not a genuine light (it is mostly not a genuine light whenever you see illuminating “UFOs”) but a special strongly charged form field which manifests itself in the space that matter inhabits as a quasi-light. The reason for the activation of this special high-energy system in an atmosphere is not completely clear to me; it’s possible that it is a kind of investigating or influencing of the environment. In any case, it is terribly careless of that species to allow this technology to be photographed by humans. Well, I guess that most of you just plain don’t understand it, and those who do will not say anything about it to the general public.
PHOTO 4: Petit Rechain, Belgium, 1990
This is in fact a genuine aerial object; it is in no way extraterrestrial. Triangular aerial objects in flight are simply not used by alien species, or not in this form, at least. That streamlined kind of form is a human concept. It is one of your own secret military projects that you build with the help of immature alien technology —technology that was handed over to you by the extraterrestrials during the 1960’s and the 1970’s. Generally, the form of the hull for a genuine extraterrestrial ship is of no consequence, for inside the field itself there are no exterior forces that have any effect there; in general, the ships have a rounded off form and they are built without hard edges —as a disk or a cylinder— so that the field can flow more easily. Your projects decree that along with the alien drive field there also be a conventional jet engine system; therefore, they are always triangular and built thus with streamlining in order to be steerable with this primitive recoil principle.
In the example here the ship glides above all on its genuine field drive. Do you see the distortion and the quasi-light in the rotating cylinders? That is an unmistakable indication for the authenticity of the photo. But why, you might ask, are there 4 cylinders? That’s unusual —even the interval seems to be incorrect. The coloring is very dark and the interior optical distortion is very noticeable. Presumably a reconstruction of the original system by your scientists. Since the alien species has just not given you any more information since the disagreement, they are rebuilding the systems single-handedly without actually being able to understand what kind of dangerous thing they are doing there. This construction does not make the system better, only more unstable. Both of the forward cylinders are too close to each other; they will definitely flow into each other. The color shows me a powerful residual radiation; it was probably the case that high elements were used again as customary for the shifting. It is in any case very dangerous to be unshielded in the vicinity of the field. Did the person who took the photo display any kind of radiation and burn damage?
Question: I don’t know. Where do these military “UFOs” come from? From the United States?
Answer: Yes. I think generally that’s true. From the western continent.
Question: Why then do they fly over thickly populated areas of Europe? This photo comes from Belgium. That doesn’t make any sense. Can you explain?
Answer: Why is it that ONLY I am able to explain strange human deeds? It’s possible that these are long-distance tests or tests with the electromagnetic camouflage systems. The old enemy of the American nation is on this side of the world, so why shouldn’t they test here? At home they’ve had enough time to have had their ships crossing back and forth. Maybe they have aroused too much observation there. With one of those kinds of unstable field structures —as your photo indicates— I consider it somewhat improbable that that ship is capable of making a flight of that length over the ocean. It’s possible there is a test station here on your continent. Unfortunately, I don’t know anything about it.
Question: Many readers of the first transcript have posed the question how your original contact with E.F. came about. I already know the story from your narratives, but could you repeat it here once again for this volume and for the new transcript?
Answer: Of course. Now, the story began about two of your years ago here in Sweden. I have been strongly interested in your species and your behavior since my youth; I had already studied your literature at that time, as well as possible. (Naturally, it is not easy in my homeland to come into possession of human books, but since my group or family stands in a higher ranking order, I was able to gather some material together and sometimes to speak with others of my kind who have already been in contact with you.) I was really very curious about your species and as soon as I was allowed to come to the surface, I attempted to assemble more information immediately; above all, it was expressly forbidden for me to commence direct contact with humans because in my position at that time, there existed no necessity for doing so.
It was in your year 1998, when I was on my way further north from here in the remote forests in the vicinity of the entrance to my world and was looking for biological specimens, which we use in order to watch over environmental pollution and destruction of your flora and fauna statistically by your own kind. At the time, I was already on the return path to the entrance—we can even orient ourselves more easily, by the way, through our senses to the Earth’s magnetic field—and already in the vicinity of the large lake, when much to my surprise I came across a cabin in the woods. In this cabin I sensed a human consciousness/awareness. It was E.F. Actually, I had no permission for contact with another species, but by the same token I had set in place my mimicry capability quite successfully prior to this—even with larger groups of you (I had never ever come across a human being when I was alone). Now, let’s call it primitive curiosity; I wanted to talk with the person in this cabin and so I knocked on the door. E. opened the door and we got into an interesting conversation. His language was not quite yet common at that time for me, but it’s not all that hard to learn a new language when one can read the information in the consciousness/awareness of the opposite individual. I simply told him that I came from a foreign country in the east. Of course at the time, he did not really “recognize” who I was; he was totally convinced that he was talking with a creature of his own kind, although it was simply only a mimicry image.
Since my assignment anyway had as its goal an investigation of this terrain which was to last for several days, I visited him in this span of time three times as a human person. At first we talked mainly about really ordinary things; later we got into religious and physical topics. He seemed to be impressed by my knowledge, and I was likewise impressed with his clear thoughts and his—for a human being—well displayed personality structure and his own opinions. You really like giving yourselves over completely to a public opinion or conditioning, as for example, “reptilian species are evil” and stuff like that. I steered the conversation in this direction, and E.F. said something to the effect that he believed in alien species and that they did not have to necessarily be evil, but perhaps only different than his kind are. That pleased me. At that juncture of time, of course, I could not speak concretely with him about my knowledge because he wouldn’t have believed me—he would have taken me for a human practical joker. I cultivated the very, very unusual idea (for my kind) to show him my true exterior, something that I did during our conversation at our fourth meeting in the cabin. Actually, he was predestined for contact: he was open-minded, honest, intelligent, not religiously inclined or conditioned; he lived alone and isolated, and no one would believe him, should he decide to go public with his story. I dared to take the step, but then I had serious doubt about the propriety of my act, especially when he reacted…very…violently. He got control of himself again after a time and we could finally talk concretely about definite matters. Now he had no choice but to believe me. This was the beginning of a series of meetings which initially took place there in the woods, but later took place in his remote residence. Finally he brought you into contact with me…and for that reason we are now sitting here once again and talking about things which probably won’t be believed out there in human society.
Question: You said, you would not have had permission at that time for contacts with human beings. Do you now then have permission to talk with E.F. and me about all these things and even to make this scientifically public?
Answer: Yes. That is difficult to explain and for you to understand. Let’s just say, I find myself in the position now to arrange this permission without having to take into account any consequences. In this position I am quasi-“immune” against certain restrictions. Let’s look it that way. Yes.
Question: If other people want to come into contact with your kind, do they have a chance to do so?
Answer: Generally not. We avoid contact with you and we operate on the surface only in remote areas and there we use the mimicry techniques in case we should meet some people. That I am talking with you now does not mean that others will follow my example. It goes without saying that you could try to find an entrance to my world and penetrate your way into there. However, that can sooner lead to unpleasant consequences for the infiltrator. You have next to no chances on the surface of recognizing us. You can’t even contact us directly, we have to contact you, just as I did with E.F. Those kinds of contacts however are not the rule but are very rare occurrences.
Question: Can you describe your subterranean homeland location?
Answer: I can attempt to do so, but I certainly will not tell you where this place is located. My homeland lies in one of our smaller underground settlements to the east of here. I’ll give you some numbers so that you can make a better impression for yourself. Just a minute…I have to try to convert the measurements approximately into your units. It is a dome-shaped cavern at a distance of about 4300 meters from the Earth’s surface. The cavern was organized as a colony about 3000 years ago; a major portion of the ceiling structure is artificially integrated into the rock and the form was remodeled into an almost elegantly proportioned and very flat dome with an oval ground plan. The diameter of the dome according to your measures is about two-and-a-half kilometers. The height of the dome at the highest point is about 220 meters. Underneath that highest point in every colony there stands a special whitish-gray cylindrical building—a kind of supporting column which holds the honeycomb net-carrying structure of the dome. This building is the tallest, largest and oldest in the entire dome for it is always situated as the first construction together with the security of the ceiling. (In the meantime of course there were times when it was completed and reconditioned.) That building has a very special name and religious significance. We have only one of those columns; larger colonies even have more columns according to the construction of the ceiling.
One of the main colonies in Inner Asia has as an example 9 of those kinds of supports, but that colony is also over 25 of your kilometers in size. The central building is generally a center of religion, but also a center for climate control, and a center for the behavior and the regulation of the lighting system. We have at our location all together 5 large artificial light sources which generate your UV light and its warmth through gravitational sources. The air shafts and the light systems from the surface likewise run through these columns and naturally, they are very intensely controlled.
By the way, we have 3 air shafts and 2 elevator systems there, and even a tunnel connection to the next main colony which lies approximately 500 kilometers to the southeast. One elevator shaft leads to a cavern near the surface, the other leads to one of our depots for the ships —you remember, the cylindrical ships— that is naturally concealed closer to the surface behind a rocky mountain face. Normally, there are only three ships there —it’s a small depot. The other buildings of the colony are, for the most part, concentrically ordered in oval circles around the main supporting column, and they are without exception much flatter; generally only between 3 and 20 meters tall. The shape of the buildings is round and dome-like. The color is even differentiated according to circle and distance from the main column. To the north of the column, there is an additional, very large but very flat round building. This building interrupts the concentric system of the colony with its diameter of about 250 meters. It is the artificial sun zone in which specially illuminated corridors and rooms are housed. In these locations very powerful UV light predominates, and they are used in order to warm our blood. There is even a medical dispensary and a meeting room located there. Beyond the outer ring of the colony, there are zones in which animals are kept—you know, we MUST consume flesh as nourishment—and the gardens in which plant nourishment and mushroom culture are cultivated; there is also hot and cold running water there from subterranean sources. The power station is located on the edge of the colony. The station is driven by fusion as its base and it supplies the colony and the “suns” with energy. My group or “family” lives, by the way, in the fourth ring of buildings out from the central support column. So much in such a short time. To describe to you all the buildings and their tasks would be going too far. It is difficult to describe something like that to you, for it is a completely different set of surroundings and culture from what you are accustomed to in your life on the surface. You really have to see it for yourself to be able to believe it.
Question: Will I myself see it sometime?
Answer: Who knows, maybe. Time brings new opportunities.
Question: How many creatures of your kind live in this colony?
Answer: Approximately 900.
Question: That is the end of the interview. Do you have any final message for the readers of the transcript?
Answer: Yes. I am thoroughly surprised at the many comments to my words; of course, I am naturally also disappointed about the religious portrayals of me as the enemy which have been voiced and which have buried themselves deeply in your mind. You should learn to set yourselves apart from the old conditioning and not to stand quasi under the control of something or someone who has already been gone for 5000 years. You are, after all, free spirits. Those are my final words.
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Introduction to three important discoveries in the Starchild Skull’s DNA.
Each is historic in its own way.
ABOUT THE STARCHILD SKULL
The Starchild Skull is a human-like bone skull independently radiocarbon dated at 900 years old (+/- 40 years). It is unlike any other skull that has ever been found or presented for inspection. It is unique in the world.
The “Starchild” name resulted from early X-rays of a maxilla fragment detached from the skull. It had two visible teeth and five unerupted crowns embedded in the bone above. That, combined with a slightly-less-than-normal-adult size of the skull and the infant size of the maxilla fragment indicated a child of 5 or 6. However, subsequent examination by experts has led them to suggest that this age is not necessarily accurate.
From extremely shallow eye sockets to total lack of frontal sinuses, the Starchild skull’s physical traits cannot be accounted for by any known combination of deformities. The bone itself has a biochemical signature more like tooth enamel than bone, unlike anything currently known. And inside that unusual bone are microscopic fibers and a red residue that so far defy explanation.
In addition to writing and lecturing, Lloyd Pye is Director of theStarchild Project, a research organization that has been investigating the Starchild Skull since February of 1999.
Lloyd initially thought the skull’s unusual physical characteristics must be the result of some kind of deformity, but he soon learned no technically valid explanation for it existed. The most unusual features of the skull include bone that is half as thick and heavy as normal human bone but is significantly more durable; fibers and residue within the matrix of the bone; and an abundance of skull deformations that would be fatal in any normal human. The Starchild Skull is unique in every significant aspect.
STARCHILD SKULL
DNA BREAKTHROUGH
In 2010 a modified “shotgun” DNA recovery technique successfully recovered numerous coherent base-pair segments of the Starchild Skull’s nuclear DNA. They were analyzed by the National Institutes of Health BLAST program, and a substantial portion of the Starchild’s nuclear DNA was found to have “no significant similarity” to any DNA previously found on Earth. This is historic!
Starchild Skull DNA Analysis Report—2011
SUMMARY:
Early in 2011, a geneticist attempting to recover Starchild Skull DNA identified four fragments that matched with human mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA). Comparing those fragments with matching fragments from human mtDNA produced an astonishing result. In every comparison, the Starchild presented many more nucleotide differences than are normally found among humans. In one comparison detailed in this report, the compared segments of human mtDNA came from one of its most highly conserved regions. Across 167 nucleotides in this segment, only 1 single variation is found among the 33 human haplogroups. In contrast, the same length of Starchild mtDNA has 17 differences! Of those 17, a significant number should be confirmed by multiple repetitions of the test. If several are confirmed (which is highly likely), it will be enough evidence to establish a new earthly species. [In 2010 just such a new prehuman species, Denisova, was confirmed by having a significant number of differences in its mtDNA. This will be explained later in this report.]
Introduction To The Starchild Skull:
The Starchild Skull is a 900-year-old human-like bone skull with distinctly non-human characteristics. It was unearthed in a mine tunnel near Mexico’s Copper Canyon around 1930. The Starchild Project is an informal research group that has coordinated numerous scientific investigations since its founding in February of 1999.
By 2003, the Starchild Project had completed enough research to strongly suspect the Starchild was something never seen before by science. At minimum, it presented a level of deformity and function previously thought impossible, and perhaps something much more significant: a new type of human-like being living on Earth 900 years ago.
The collective conclusions were that the combination of skull features were unique and could not be explained by any known deformity or combination of deformities, mutation, cultural practices, genetic disorders, or illness. If a human were born today with physical abnormalities like the Starchild, it could not survive. Yet something about the essential nature of this being permitted it to do what would be impossible for a normal human.
Realizing the ultimate answer could come only from genetic testing, in 2003 the Starchild Project commissioned a DNA analysis of the Starchild Skull’s bone by Trace Genetics of Davis, California. (Trace Genetics was acquired by DNA Print Genomics in 2005.) Its owners and principal geneticists were Dr. Ripan Malhi and Dr. Jason Eshleman, specialists in the recovery of ancient DNA, meaning DNA from samples more than 50 years old. Dr. Malhi and Dr. Eshleman had previously worked on the high profile 5,000 to 9,000 + year old Kennewick Man skeleton found in Washington State in 1996.
Drs. Malhi and Eshleman took samples of the Starchild bone, along with control samples from a human skull reportedly found lying beside the Starchild’s buried skeleton. Carbon 14 dating of the two skulls confirmed they died at or near the same time, 900 years ago, and later analysis of staining on both skulls, and the inorganic chemistry of their bone, supported the C-14 result that both were exposed to similar conditions after death. That made the human an ideal control to compare contamination and degradation of its DNA against the Starchild’s.
What You Need To Know About DNA:
All humans have two types of DNA.
Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) comprises the genomes of all mitochondria, which are subcellular (within a cell) elements located in the cytoplasm of eukaryotic cells (those with a nucleus). Mitochondria are responsible for energy production in cells. They are inherited through female eggs; thus, mtDNA is inherited only from mothers, grandmothers, great-grandmothers, etc., for countless generations to a species’ point of genetic origin.
Nuclear DNA (nuDNA) is the combination of genetic material from both parents, and comprises the human genome. NuDNA gives humans their unique individual attributes.
All DNA is created from only four building blocks called nucleosides, which are bound together the way train cars are coupled, with the help of a binder made of phosphoric acid. These four nucleosides are adenosine, guanosine, thymidine and cytidine, abbreviated as A, G, T, and C. Nucleosides with the attached phosphate couplers are called nucleotides.
The four resulting nucleotides link together in DNA to form chains that are different in their order and length for each gene. Whether short or long, when linked together these nucleotide chains comprise the 30,000 genes that are organized into the 46 chromosomes (23 from each parent) within the nucleus of almost every cell in the human body. Each chromosome is basically an enormously long, uninterrupted chain of the four nucleotides connected in a specific order that is unique to the chromosome’s host and species.
Regardless of length, each chain of nucleotides is complexed with (connected to) another DNA chain that faithfully reproduces the connection order of nucleotides in the first chain, but in a mirrored manner. Each nucleotide in one chain is always connected to a specific nucleotide in the opposite chain to create what is known as a base pair. Base pairs always occur as T-A (or A-T) and G-C (or C-G). Those 46 chromosomes taken together contain over 3 billion base pairs, which in total comprises the human genome.
What You Need To Know About DNA Testing:
In 2003, Trace Genetics began their sequencing analyses of the DNA recovered from both skulls. The methodology they utilized was based on PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction), a powerful amplification technique that enabled analysis of tiny amounts of DNA too small to be detected by other methods. The principal drawback of using the PCR technique was its dependence on employing correctly designed primers for its amplification.
To design primers correctly, the target DNA sequence had to be known from the start, or at least the relatedness of known DNA to unknown DNA had to be understood, such as that between chimp DNA and human DNA (97% related). This made using PCR for unknown DNA sequences (those not catalogued) extremely problematic, if not impossible.
Primers are designed strings of nucleotides similar to those in DNA, but much shorter, often only 25 to 30 nucleotides long. Unlike DNA, which is double-stranded, primers are single-stranded. When added to a sample of DNA being tested, a primer is designed to find its complimentary strand and bind to it at a specific locus (point of contact).
To create primers that accurately reproduce the sequence of nucleotides (their order of connection) at a specific locus requires knowing the exact sequence at the target locus. Imagine a human-specific primer is the string of nucleotides shown in grey (below left). When such a primer is added to a DNA sample, it will seek to connect with its other half (shown in blue) in the mirrored fashion mentioned above.
When a primer locates its counterpart (a complementary sequence, or complement), the PCR process is able to proceed and a positive result will register by whatever measurement an investigator chooses to utilize. Thus, with primers designed to conform to human DNA, a positive registration of a PCR result indicates that human DNA is present in the sample. Conversely, if the primers cannot find their complements, no human DNA is present.
2003 DNA Testing: To test the DNA of the Starchild Skull and the control skull, Dr. Eshleman and Dr. Malhi used the PCR technique with primers designed on the basis of known human sequences.
On the first attempt with the control skull, both mtDNA and nuDNA were detected, revealing it was a female whose mtDNA belonged to haplogroup A. The Starchild’s mtDNA was also recovered on the first attempt, but it belonged to haplogroup C. Haplogroups are how geneticists classify macro groups of people with similar yet slightly different mtDNA. The exact number of haplogroups differs depending on which reference is consulted, but 33 groups are commonly used for genetic comparisons.
This result indicated that the female and the Starchild could not be maternally related because their mtDNA did not belong to the same haplogroup. (Remember, everyone inherits only their mother’s mtDNA, their grandmother’s, etc.)
Recovering mtDNA so easily from both samples meant they were well preserved during 900 years in a dry mine tunnel. The fact that the Starchild’s mtDNA apparently belonged to a normal human haplogroup indicated that its maternal line was entirely human.
If the Starchild’s nuclear DNA responded positively to primers designed to recover human nuDNA, that would establish its nuDNA as also human, confirming it as an astoundingly bizarre deformity, but 100% human. However, if its nuclear DNA proved to be other than entirely human, the Starchild Skull would represent a new type of humanoid—period.
In six full attempts (above), Dr. Eshleman and Dr. Malhi could not detect the Starchild’s nuclear DNA by PCR. Given that nuDNA was easily recovered from the control skull with the same level of DNA degradation, and the Starchild’s mtDNA was also easily detectable by PCR, the failure strongly indicated its nuclear DNA was present, but too different from human DNA to be detected by human-specific primers.
Though compelling, this result was not absolute proof that the Starchild had a non-human father. Also, if it were some kind of human-alien hybrid, the presence of mtDNA inherited from a human mother would suggest that a large portion of its nuDNA should also come from the mother. So, why wasn’t this clearly human counterpart more easily detectable?
With only PCR-based detection techniques at their disposal in 2003, Dr. Malhi and Dr. Eshleman had no way to address the critical question of exactly how far the father was from human. Was it a razor-thin margin, barely enough to avoid detection by primers? Or was it a substantial margin, enough to confirm that he had an alien genetic heritage? (In this context, “alien” can mean anything from “foreign to normal human genetics within the framework of that subject as it is currently understood,” to “definitely not from planet Earth”…. or anything in between.)
With Trace Genetics unable to determine how different the father’s DNA was from human, the Starchild Project could offer no conclusion that would stand up to the intense scrutiny certain to descend on a claim that the Starchild’s father might be of non-terrestrial origin.
The upside was that the mtDNA result proved the Starchild Skull’s DNA was viable (not degraded to a point where nothing could be recovered from it), leaving open the possibility that later, using improved technology, its all-important nuclear DNA could be recovered.
454 Life Sciences Technology:
In 2006, a company called 454 Life Sciences of Branford, Connecticut, announced they had developed a new DNA analysis methodology that enabled sequencing of any unknown DNA sample without prior knowledge of any of its sequences. The only requirement was that the sample to be sequenced had to actually be DNA (in a chemical sense).
The 454 technique was also based on using primers, but these primers were standardized for every imaginable analysis, not specific to the DNA to be analyzed. It was exactly what was needed to recover and sequence the Starchild’s elusive nuclear DNA.
Unfortunately, the first full genome analyses using the 454 methodology were extremely expensive (millions of dollars each), and so could be afforded only by those involved in well-known, high-profile cases such as sequencing the Neanderthal genome.
By 2009, 454 sequencers were in use worldwide and were competing with next-generation genome sequencers from other companies, so the cost of sequencing entire genomes was decreasing steadily. The Starchild’s DNA was now a candidate for such comprehensive genetic analysis, even though its burial for 900 years meant that as much as 90% of the DNA recovered from its bone would come from contaminating bacteria.
Nonetheless, as demonstrated by the Neanderthal genome project, even very extensive contamination can be identified and eliminated from data sets by modern bioinformatics. Specialized computer tools enable various degrees of filtering, one of which removes all bacterial sequences to isolate only information pertaining to the Starchild Skull’s nuDNA. That means its entire genome derived from the genetic package provided to it by both parents—its human mother and its potentially non-human father.
Although access to advanced DNA recovery technology was rapidly expanding, the price for recovering and sequencing ancient DNA remained well beyond the Starchild Project’s meager financial resources. Then, in early 2010, that tide of frustration suddenly turned.
2010 DNA Testing & Results:
A geneticist from an established and well-accredited research facility in the U.S.A. offered to attempt to analyze the Starchild Skull’s nuclear DNA using sophisticated genetic analysis techniques such as genome amplifications and classic shotgun sequencing, which were not available to Dr. Malhi and Dr. Eshleman due to the narrow specialization and commercial nature of the Trace Genetics business model.
As with any DNA analysis that involves enzymatic amplification, the techniques used by the new geneticist still relied on primers, but he used different approaches that were not narrowly connected to the origin of the DNA samples, and were not species-specific.
It was very labor-intensive work, and thus not cost effective for a full genome recovery. However, the geneticist’s goal was to find a few fragments of the Starchild’s “missing” nuclear DNA, which would clearly demonstrate that the entire genome was recoverable and therefore an investment in 454 sequencing would be warranted.
In February 2010, the geneticist was provided with a bone sample from the Starchild Skull. In March, he had recovered dozens of fragments of DNA from the sample, much of which resulted from the inevitable bacterial contamination. Nonetheless, others were clearly fragments of the Starchild Skull’s nuclear DNA, so after 11 years of effort—success!
All of the recovered fragments were completely characterized using the classic Sanger sequencing technique, and analyzed by capillary electrophoresis (also known as automated sequencing). These are standard DNA sequencing techniques. After obtaining sequencing data, the geneticist compared the new sequences to millions of sequences recovered by other researchers from all over the world, looking for a match.
Those worldwide results have been deposited into a massive database maintained by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Washington, D.C. That database was created by NIH scientists from genomes and partial genomes of thousands of plant and animal species—from sponges to humans—that have been recovered with the help of NIH funding.
The comparisons were conducted using a sophisticated computer program called the Basic Local Alignment Search Tool (BLAST), an NIH application that can analyze nucleotide sequences of any length, short or long, and attempt to match them to any of the millions of sequences in the database that represent essentially every living species on Earth.
All of the sequenced fragments recovered from the Starchild Skull DNA sample were run through the BLAST program. As anticipated, a large percentage of recovered fragments were matched perfectly with DNA catalogued from various species of bacteria.
Also anticipated were the results for several fragments like the one seen below. That fragment was 265 base pairs in length, and it was found to correlate with a segment on human chromosome #1. This proves some of the Starchild’s nuclear DNA is analogous with segments of human DNA, and those parts of its genome are human or human-like.
These results were not surprising since the 2003 Trace Genetics test concluded that the Starchild had a human mother. However, these were not the only results. Other BLAST results, like the one below for a 342 nucleotide fragment, gave a very different answer.
It states that within the millions of DNA base pair strings catalogued in the NIH database, none were even “similar” to this section of the Starchild Skull’s DNA! And please note that this astonishing result was obtained with the search parameters set to the broadest match criteria that seeks even a “somewhat similar” match, not only an exact match.
For all of the Starchild’s DNA fragments, a wide net was cast into the NIH database with the hope there would be minimal doubt about results. Indeed, they were unequivocal: Some of the Starchild’s nuDNA is different from anything previously found on Earth!
The largest composite fragment that could not be matched in the database was several thousand nucleotides long! However, until some biological sense can be extracted from these non-matching nuDNA fragments, it’s too early to draw any definitive conclusions.
So, how can “biological sense” be extracted from them? One way would be if such DNA fragments are found to represent the coding part of a gene. That would mean it could be translated into a protein, and attempts could be made to predict the function of the protein.
Such a coding fragment is yet to be found among the recovered samples of the Starchild DNA because, as it happens, only about 3% of the total human genome is coding sections. Therefore, it is extremely unlikely that random sampling will miraculously discover a coding section, and all of the Starchild fragments have been obtained randomly.
The Starchild Project’s team considered this development a vital step forward in the quest to establish the truth about the Skull’s genetic heritage. However, skeptics and would-be debunkers soon pointed out that the submission parameters of a BLAST search could be manipulated by an unscrupulous researcher adjusting them to gain a favored result.
When those trying to discredit the Starchild Project suggest its results have been faked or fudged, they fail to acknowledge that all Project members have put their professional and personal reputations at stake. Project members have by far the most to lose from invalid results—much less faked results—so each of them works hard to ensure that appropriate steps are taken to secure accurate, repeatable results at every point in the process.
To serve that policy, the nuclear DNA results so far obtained have undergone sequential verification, but it must be stressed that they are now, and will remain, only fragmentary, and they will ultimately require subsequent repetitions for absolute confirmation. This will be completed by our geneticist and his colleagues as time and funding permit.
2003 vs 2011 Mitochondrial DNA Testing:
Early in 2011, the geneticist sequenced some fragments from the Starchild Skull DNA sample that, when examined by a program similar to BLAST, revealed they were segments of mitochondrial DNA rather than nuclear DNA. This was an intriguing development.
Up to that point, he had accepted the Trace Genetics result of 2003 (that the Starchild’s mtDNA was entirely human) as accurate. However, the primer series utilized in 2003 recovered only relatively small and quite specific segments of human mtDNA. The situation at that time left room for error and therefore should be clearly understood.
When the primers employed in 2003 found corresponding fragments on the Starchild’s mtDNA, the primers rendered a positive signal from the PCR indicating “this particular part of the mtDNA is human, or highly human-like.” However, that did not mean other untouched sections of the mtDNA would not vary considerably from the human mtDNA. And this, apparently, is what happened—the 2003 sampling proved to be too small.
2011 DNA Testing & Results:
Mitochondrial DNA is quite distinct from nuclear DNA. While both mtDNA and nuDNA exist as double-strand molecules forming the famous “double helix,” nuDNA is segregated into 46 chromosomes (in humans). Due to the massive amount of DNA in chromosomes (each consisting of millions of base pairs), DNA is tightly packed into multiple folds and is encased in a shell by large amounts of proteins called histones.
In contrast, mtDNA forms a tiny circle consisting of 16,569 base pairs. Despite its small size, its function is crucial to life. Unlike nuDNA, the vast majority of it works, so mutations seldom become permanent. In fact, in the entire course of human existence, mtDNA has accumulated only 120 ± variations across the entire population. Compare that to nuDNA, whose 3 + billion base pairs have as much as 15 million variations.
Human mtDNA contains 37 genes, 15 of which are larger and depicted above, and 22 of which are tiny bits of transport RNA (tRNA) not included. Of the 15 larger, 2 encode for mitochondria-specific RNA (ribonucleic acid) that constitutes a crucial component of mtDNA’s protein-making machinery (called ribosomes), but does not actually encode proteins. That is carried out by the 13 other large genes in the mtDNA, which do encode proteins for the production of energy and other critical functions of the mitochondria.
Mitochondria are the power plants of all cells that contain them, with a similar function in the biology of all species on Earth. MtDNA is one of the most thoroughly researched and well-understood aspects of human genetics. The coding capacity of mtDNA is used very efficiently, having exactly enough genes to carry on its job of producing proteins.
Since the beginning of eukaryotic cells (those with a nucleus) around 2 billion years ago, the mitochondria in them have carried out the most fundamental aspects of sustaining life. This has been true from yeasts to dinosaurs to humans. Their critical functioning is why very few differences are found between the mtDNA sequences of closely related species.
Mutational change in the human mtDNA nucleotide sequence is exceptionally rare (only 120 ± among all humans), and each mutation is well documented. The chart below is a screen capture of the output from a computer program that compares the entire mtDNA sequences of 33 different human haplogroups, one sequence for Neanderthal, and two for the recently discovered Denisova type of hominid. This output is called DNA alignment.
At the top, highlighted in dark blue, is the Human mtDNA Cambridge Reference Sequence (CRS), which represents the sequences of one particular individual chosen as a reference, so everything else can be compared to that standard. The sequence depicted here starts at nucleotide #1255 (out of 16,569) and continues across to #1350. Notice this block of 95 nucleotides contains no variations in any haplogroup. Every base pair nucleotide is identical across all 33 groups of humans, the Neanderthal, and the two Denisova.
Both Neanderthal and Denisova have mtDNA more varied than human mtDNA, but they still contain many long unvarying segments. Neanderthals differ from the human CRS by 200 ± base pairs. The Denisova differ from it by 385 ± base pairs, which is why they are designated as separate from humans and Neanderthals. As a comparison, chimp mtDNA differs from the human CRS by 1,500 ± base pairs, as seen in the following graph.
MtDNA is so highly conserved because nature applies a very strong selective pressure against changes in its most critical regions. When changes do occur in such places, it can lead to disruption of a crucial activity, which can lead to dysfunction and death. As a result, an unfavorable mutation is not passed along. However, mutations that do not change proteins, and those in regions that do not encode proteins, can and do slowly accumulate.
This explains why only 0.0072% (120th of 16,569 bp) of human mitochondrial DNA has any variation across its 33 haplogroups. Below is an example of variation in human mtDNA. The haplogroup L1a has a C (cytidine) nucleotide, while at the same location all the other haplogroups have a T (thymidine) nucleotide. (The program’s output highlights all variations to aid researchers.)
Each variation like the one above is called a Single Nucleotide Polymorphism (SNP), and for human mtDNA such “snips” are catalogued in databases maintained by the National Institutes of Health. The fewer substitutions a DNA segment has, the more conserved it is. Human mtDNA, with only 120 ± variations in 16,569 base pairs, is considered very highly conserved.
Notice that the first haplogroup in the chart below the Control Reference Sequence (CRS) is haplogroup A (HPT A). This is the haplogroup that was matched to the human female skull found with the Starchild Skull. The next down is haplogroup C (HPT C), matched to the Starchild with small fragments of its mtDNA in 2003.
When Trace Genetics detected the Starchild’s mtDNA, they used human-specific primers that amplified segments only a few dozen nucleotides long. These segments were targeted for diagnostic analysis because they contained human haplogroup-specific changes that could determine whether mtDNA belonged (or not) to a specific haplogroup.
If the targeted segments also happened to be a part of a highly conservative sequence of human mtDNA that has a crucial biological function, the segments could be similar even among very different species (i.e., humans and chimps), leading to confusing conclusions.
In early 2011, our geneticist analyzed four newly sequenced fragments from the Starchild Skull’s mtDNA samples. A computer program similar to the BLAST program mentioned earlier matched the four Starchild fragments to catalogued fragments of human mtDNA.
One fragment matched a segment in the chart shown earlier, seen expanded below. This is a highly conserved segment of human mtDNA, with only 1 nucleotide variation among 33 human haplogroups present (L1b). There is also one in Neanderthal and one in Denisova .
This chart goes from #1262 to #1426 (164 nucleotides). Now imagine a line added across the top labeled “Starchild Skull” containing 167 nucleotides, but covering only 157 of the human mtDNA nucleotides to which it matched. Discrepancies like this (167/157) occur because the computer program is designed to find matches between two or more DNA fragments, in this case the human CRS and the Starchild Skull’s mtDNA. If it calculates that a sequence would match if more or fewer letters were in either code, it inserts gaps containing dashes to produce better aligned results, as seen in the diagram below:
In the comparison above, the first four letters match. However, at the fifth space a jumble would begin within the sample if the gap (containing a dash) was not inserted where it is. This is how the computer program works; it seeks to record the highest possible number of matches between two samples, so it inserts gaps, and each gap provides a negative penalty score as the program calculates the highest total of matches.
To make the Starchild’s mtDNA match the human CRS, the program added gaps marked as dashes either to the Skull’s mtDNA or to the CRS to obtain the highest matching score between them. Adding spaces to such misalignments in both samples provides a total cumulative difference, which in this case is a10-gap differential (167 – 157 = 10).
It is important to distinguish that adding gaps is not the same as outright changes in the nucleotides, as was seen earlier with the single C found in a row of Ts. Such changes are only one of three ways that differences are recorded when samples are being compared.
(1) The SNP just referenced is a substitution, when one nucleotide is replaced by another; (2) an insertion is when an extra nucleotide is found in a sample and the program has to introduce a gap into the other sequence to accommodate the extra nucleotide; and (3) a deletion, which is when a nucleotide is missing from one of the samples, and once again the program introduces a gap into the sequence to align it with the other sequence.
In the latter two cases, insertions and deletions, the program makes no distinction between which is the cause of the gap. All it does is insert the gaps into either sequence to keep the matching count as high as possible. Those gaps are called insertion-deletions, or indel(s).
Indels are clear points of variation between samples, but not all of them can be considered ironclad. All DNA testing requires multiple “runs” to be certain of every result. When the same sample is sequenced again and again, any of the three possibilities above might be corrected. Several runs will establish which variations can be catalogued as confirmed.
Now return to the Starchild’s 167 mtDNA nucleotides compared to 157 nucleotides of the human CRS in a highly conserved region where only one single variation is found among 33 human haplogroups. In such a strongly conserved area, multiple differences in a matched sample would immediately alert geneticists that something major might be unfolding.
Below is a screen shot of the 167 Starchild mtDNA nucleotides compared to the 157 in the human CRS. The top line of each row (highlighted in pink) is the Starchild Skull sequence, which starts at 167 and works backward to 1. In the complementary Human CRS sequence (the second line of each row) the base pairs start at #1269 and end at #1426 (157 total) in the mirrored fashion mentioned earlier.
Within the 167 comparisons above are 17 variations! Seventeen! That is 17 indels of difference between the Starchild mtDNA and the mtDNA of 33 human haplogroups!
After repeated sequencing, some of those 17 differences could be confirmed as reading errors by the program, but it is virtually impossible that all of them would be errors.
What Does This Mean? In any comparison of DNA samples between the human CRS and an “unknown” species (which technically categorizes the Starchild), even a few variations between them in a short stretch of highly conserved nucleotides strongly indicates that the entire mtDNA genome of that species would contain many more than the 120 ± carried by the human haplotypes.
Such a difference, which is not hypothetical but actually exists within the Starchild Skull, is by itself sufficient reason to suspect a new species has been identified! Clearly such an extraordinary claim requires extraordinary evidence, but the preliminary results achieved so far with the Starchild DNA are immensely encouraging, to the point of near certainty.
To calculate the exact percentage of difference between the Starchild Skull and humans will require its entire genome to be sequenced using sophisticated technology such as the machines provided by 454 Life Sciences and/or similar companies such as Illumina. We intend to perform that sequencing as soon as we have the financial ability to do so.
In the interim, our research team is releasing this report to focus on the 167/157 RNA segment of mtDNA because it is easy to understand. Several other mtDNA comparisons have been carried out, each much longer than the one here, and three of those are depicted and analyzed in the Starchild Skull Essentials eBook (available HERE).
Remember that the information found by comparing mtDNA segments cannot and should not be considered thoroughly verified, as some sequencing errors are undoubtedly present. Each mtDNA segment must be sequenced several times to establish exactly how many differences exist between the Starchild Skull and the human CRS, and this kind of targeted testing, rather than shotgunning at random, is time-consuming and expensive.
Nonetheless, based on the preliminary results now in hand, our research team is very confident that when the Starchild’s entire genome is recovered and sequenced, the total number of confirmed differences will be so staggering that it can only lead to a conclusion that the Starchild represents an entirely new humanoid species, and that species is “alien.”
How could an “alien” have any human DNA, or even survive on our planet? Surprisingly, the genomes of many animal species have certain similarities (or homology) with humans. Proteins are the building blocks of all animal life on Earth, and the DNA that guides the production of proteins is very similar across all species. The genome of chimps is ± 97% the same as humans. Gorillas are 95% the same. Rats are 70%, mice 65%. Etc.
As mathematicians like to say, “Numbers don’t lie.” In this case, the 17 differences found in one short segment of Starchild Skull mtDNA makes it seem possible—even probable—that when the entire 16,570 ± nucleotides in the Starchild’s mtDNA are sequenced, they will contain far more than the 120 ± variations shared by the 33 human haplogroups.
Add to those 17 the number of differences found in three much longer fragments discussed in the eBook, and the total is mind-boggling. That number convincingly indicates that the Starchild will carry far more differences than the 200 ± of Neanderthals. It will carry far more than the 385 ± of Denisova. Can it possibly, or conceivably, reach the 1500 ± of chimps? Only further investigation will tell, but this is already a monumental discovery.
Conclusion & Call To Action:
After 12 years of struggle, the Starchild Skull is truly poised to make history. When we have secured the funding needed to carry out the recovery and sequencing of its entire genome, it will provide uncontestable proof that at least once, 900 years ago, a being somewhat like us but definitely not human lived and died and was buried on our planet.
Unfortunately, achieving that historic moment requires far more than the Starchild Project team can deliver without substantial help. A wealthy investor—not merely a donor, an investor—must be found to provide the funding necessary to do what must be done.
In this extraordinarily special case, the investment needed is $7 million USD. Why that amount? Every step of the DNA recovery and sequencing process will have to be verified with multiple repetitions until no possible doubt remains about any specific result. Also, in order that those completed results can be confirmed by independent researchers, the entire process must be recorded on film for academic scrutiny and historic posterity.
The Starchild Project intends to incorporate some of that footage into creating two theater-quality documentary films during the 1.5 to 3 years required for the DNA’s recovery and analysis. These films will cover the Starchild Skull’s entire story, from its discovery to completion of the DNA analyses. They will be valuable both historically, as the record of this milestone event in human history, and financially, as market research indicates they will be enthusiastically welcomed in virtually every country on Earth.
It should be obvious to anyone that much more than $7 million can be made from two high quality films about such a pivotal shift in human awareness. If anyone reading this report personally knows anyone who might be interested in taking a front-and-center position as this historic event unfolds, please ask them to email: [email protected].
A business proposal is available to any serious potential investor. The film project already has its producers, director, entertainment attorney, accountant, production team, and the enthusiastic cooperation of a state film council. Everything is in place except for the investment, the final hurdle that now requires only one astute decision to clear it.
Final Note:
Explanations and terminology in this report are aimed at non-experts. Those with expert knowledge in genetics will naturally find its concepts and descriptions simplified.
The identity of certain research team members requires temporary anonymity. Their names will be revealed when they are ready to formally release reports for peer scrutiny.
Potential investors who want to know more, or to verify our geneticist’s work, can meet with him and tour his lab if they sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement. This will be on a case-by-case basis.
. They were analyzed by the National Institutes of Health BLAST program, and a substantial portion of the Starchild’s nuclear DNA was found to have “no significant similarity” to any DNA previously found on Earth. This is historic!
